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Re: [Mgs] No Turn Signals

To: h.duinhoven@planet.nl, mgs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mgs] No Turn Signals
From: Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 15:57:56 -0700
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Hans,
     I tried flipping the switch afew times, but on the second flip the
switch broke up internally in pieces and jammed the rocker switch.  Won't
move in any direction now.  Just received a replacement switch from Moss
today.  Unfortunately it is made in China.  Hope it lasts more than a year.
Mike MacLean

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 9:48 AM <h.duinhoven@planet.nl> wrote:

> The hazard switch in my 1971 BGT has been causing this issue from time to
> time.
>
> Flipping this hazard switch several times helped to cure this till now.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hans
>
> 71 BGT
>
>
>
> *Van:* Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> *Namens *Michael MacLean
> *Verzonden:* Monday, 18 April 2022 02:31
> *Aan:* Robert's New iPad <mgbobh@gmail.com>; mgs@autox.team.net
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] No Turn Signals
>
>
>
> I very much appreciate the help from the list with my turn signal
> problem.  This is to let you know, I think I know what the problem is.
> After looking at the wiring diagram in Rick Astley's book (MGB Electrical
> Systems) I noticed the turn signals are wired through the hazard switch.
> Just before the turn signals quit I was showing a friend the dash.  I was
> showing him what switches worked and which didn't.   One of the switches
> that has never worked was the hazard switch.  I clicked it back and forth
> to show him.  Right after that the turn signals quit.  Until I looked at
> the wiring diagram I did not put it together.  I just went out to the car
> to see if I rocked the switch back and forth maybe the turn signals would
> start working.  Instead the switch broke internally and refused to move.
>  It lasted 52 years.  No complaints.  I have ordered a new switch from
> Moss.  We'll see if that fixes it.  I might even get hazard flashers out =
of
> it too.
>
> Mike MacLean
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 4:32 AM Robert's New iPad <mgbobh@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         A dog saboteur, perhaps?
>         I would start at the basics, cleaning bulb contacts and ensuring
> that power is getting to each filament.   Check that the earth wires, if
> present, are earthing.
>         Then review the connections of wires to the fuses, and test each
> fuse is good by measuring power through it.  It=E2=80=99s possible to see=
m OK with
> ohmmeter yet have insufficient current to light the lights.
> Bob
>
>
> > On Apr 16, 2022, at 10:23 PM, Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.co=
m>
> wrote:
> >
> > Last week the turn signals in the 69 MGB GT just stopped working.  I
> have replaced the flasher unit.  I know it is getting power because it
> audibly makes a clicking sound when I flip the turn signal stalk.  I
> checked the fuses, both are good.  I checked the incandescent bulbs in th=
e
> front and they were OK.  The rear turn signals are LED and quite new.  I'=
m
> kind of at a loss here.  They were working when I stopped the car at the
> dog park and the just weren't working when I started the car back up.
> Anything else I can check here?
> > Mike MacLean
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hans,</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I tried flip=
ping the switch afew times, but on the second flip the switch broke up inte=
rnally in pieces and jammed the rocker switch.=C2=A0 Won&#39;t move in any =
direction now.=C2=A0 Just received a replacement switch from Moss today.=C2=
=A0 Unfortunately it is made in China.=C2=A0 Hope it lasts more than a year=
.</div><div>Mike MacLean<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 9:48 AM &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl";>h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"over=
flow-wrap: break-word;" lang=3D"NL"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-5547941455497454=
13WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">The hazard swit=
ch in my 1971 BGT has been causing this issue from time to time.<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Flipping this haz=
ard switch several times helped to cure this till now. <u></u><u></u></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Hans<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">71 BGT<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span>=
</p><div style=3D"border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;b=
order-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0cm =
0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>Van:</b> Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounc=
es@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>=
Namens </b>Michael MacLean<br><b>Verzonden:</b> Monday, 18 April 2022 02:31=
<br><b>Aan:</b> Robert&#39;s New iPad &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgbobh@gmail.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">mgbobh@gmail.com</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.=
team.net" target=3D"_blank">mgs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re:=
 [Mgs] No Turn Signals<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u=
>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I very much appreciate the he=
lp from the list with my turn signal problem.=C2=A0 This is to let you know=
, I think I know what the problem is.=C2=A0 After looking at the wiring dia=
gram in Rick Astley&#39;s book (MGB Electrical Systems) I noticed the turn =
signals are wired through the hazard switch.=C2=A0 Just before the turn sig=
nals quit I was showing a friend the dash.=C2=A0 I was showing him what swi=
tches worked and which didn&#39;t.=C2=A0 =C2=A0One of the switches that has=
 never worked was the hazard switch.=C2=A0 I clicked it back and forth to s=
how him.=C2=A0 Right after that the turn signals quit.=C2=A0 Until I looked=
 at the wiring diagram I did not put it together.=C2=A0 I just went out to =
the car to see if I rocked the switch back and forth maybe the turn signals=
 would start working.=C2=A0 Instead the switch broke internally and refused=
 to move.=C2=A0 =C2=A0It lasted 52 years.=C2=A0 No complaints.=C2=A0 I have=
 ordered a new switch from Moss.=C2=A0 We&#39;ll see if that fixes it.=C2=
=A0 I might even get hazard flashers out of it too.<u></u><u></u></p><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mike MacLean<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun=
, Apr 17, 2022, 4:32 AM Robert&#39;s New iPad &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgbobh@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mgbobh@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u><=
/p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-color:currentcolor currentcolor curren=
tcolor rgb(204,204,204);border-style:none none none solid;border-width:medi=
um medium medium 1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right=
:0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 A dog saboteur, pe=
rhaps? <br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I would start at the basics, cleanin=
g bulb contacts and ensuring that power is getting to each filament.=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0Check that the earth wires, if present, are earthing.<br>=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Then review the connections of wires to the fuses, and te=
st each fuse is good by measuring power through it.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s poss=
ible to seem OK with ohmmeter yet have insufficient current to light the li=
ghts.=C2=A0 <br>Bob<br><br><br>&gt; On Apr 16, 2022, at 10:23 PM, Michael M=
acLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:springer.mike51@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">s=
pringer.mike51@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Last week the turn=
 signals in the 69 MGB GT just stopped working.=C2=A0 I have replaced the f=
lasher unit.=C2=A0 I know it is getting power because it audibly makes a cl=
icking sound when I flip the turn signal stalk.=C2=A0 I checked the fuses, =
both are good.=C2=A0 I checked the incandescent bulbs in the front and they=
 were OK.=C2=A0 The rear turn signals are LED and quite new.=C2=A0 I&#39;m =
kind of at a loss here.=C2=A0 They were working when I stopped the car at t=
he dog park and the just weren&#39;t working when I started the car back up=
.=C2=A0 Anything else I can check here?<br>&gt; Mike MacLean<br>&gt; ______=
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