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Subject: Re: [Mgs] History lesson needed
From: Barrie Robinson via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2019 12:23:04 -0500
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You are right the 4 cyl B is a hoot - But with the same wheel weight 
distribution the MGB GT V8 is just awesome.   My BJ8 was fun but it has 
not got the "put on and drive" feeling of the MGB   Incidently, the MGB 
GT was dubbed the "poor man's Aston Martin"..   Guess what I am now 
restoring ??!!!!

Barrie Robinson
Barrie, Ontario

On 12/24/2019 11:17 AM, i erbs wrote:
> If we are talking about iron block 6 cyl cars Ill take my big Healey 
> over a MGC any day. The 4 cyl B is just fun the drive. A v8 of 140 or 
> more hp, dounds like a hoot. But there is someting about the balance 
> of the 1.8 that makes them g8n to drive.
> With mods my Healey puts out around 150 hp
>
> Ira Erbs
> Portland,OR
> 1959 Austin Healey BN4
> 1967 MGB
>
> On Tue, Dec 24, 2019, 8:10 AM Barrie Robinson via Mgs 
>
>     Oh My Oath,    The MGC is far too heavy at the front for decent
>     driving compared to the MGB GT V8 which was lighter and had more
>     horses.  The C engine is around 200lbs heavier than the 1.8 iron
>     block - the MGB V8 Rover engine weighs about the SAME as the 1.8
>     iron block motor. My 3.5L V8 puts out 220 bhp (HC pistons and mild
>     cam) against the originals which were less than 140 hp.   The low
>     bhp was I believe because the engine put out too much heat for the
>     engine bay.  After getting more BHP it took me ages to tame the
>     beast so that it did not overheat.   I ended up with double
>     ceramic coated exhaust manifold, custom aluminium radiator, and
>     phenolic gasket for the engine/carburettor (downdraft Weber).   
>     Now all is well and I believe 220 is a low ball number.   But I
>     believe the handling of the factory V8 is much better then the
>     C.   Not that I am biased or anything ....and what harm is there
>     to have 200lbs sitting on your bonnet??
>
>     On 12/24/2019 8:50 AM, Dan DiBiase via Mgs wrote:
>>     Rick, the MGB-GT V8 was built from 1973 - 1976, using the 3.5
>>     liter Rover V8 (which was originally a GM engine I believe) - it
>>     made less than 140 HP and about 195 ft/lbs of torque. Introduced
>>     at the height of the energy crisis...... There were only about
>>     2,600 made.
>>
>>     Personally, I prefer the MGC.
>>
>>     Dan D
>>     Central NJ USA
>>     http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
>>
>>
>>     On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 8:08 AM Richard Lindsay via Mgs
>>
>>         Hello friends,
>>            This talk about the B-GT has me wondering about other MGs,
>>         specifically the V8 cars. That was a Rover V8 right? In which
>>         bodies and years was it used? Ever in the B-GT? Any real
>>         power or torque advantage? Yea, I'm just having a nerd moment...
>>
>>         Rick
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    <font size="-1"><font face="Arial">You are right the 4 cyl B is a
        hoot - But with the same wheel weight distribution the MGB GT V8
        is just awesome.   My BJ8 was fun but it has not got the "put on
        and drive" feeling of the MGB   Incidently, the MGB GT was
        dubbed the "poor man's Aston Martin"..   Guess what I am now
        restoring ??!!!!<br>
        <br>
        Barrie Robinson<br>
        Barrie, Ontario<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/24/2019 11:17 AM, i erbs wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">If we are talking about iron block 6 cyl cars Ill
        take my big Healey over a MGC any day. The 4 cyl B is just fun
        the drive. A v8 of 140 or more hp, dounds like a hoot. But there
        is someting about the balance of the 1.8 that makes them g8n to
        drive.
        <div dir="auto">With mods my Healey puts out around 150 hp<br>
          <br>
          <div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Ira Erbs<br>
            Portland,OR<br>
            1959 Austin Healey BN4<br>
            1967 MGB</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 24, 2019, 8:10 AM
          Barrie Robinson via Mgs &lt;<a
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moz-do-not-send="true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
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          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <font size="-1"><font
                face="Arial">Oh My Oath,    The MGC is far too heavy at
                the front for decent driving compared to the MGB GT V8
                which was lighter and had more horses.  The C engine is
                around 200lbs heavier than the 1.8 iron block - the MGB
                V8 Rover engine weighs about the SAME as the 1.8 iron
                block motor. My 3.5L V8 puts out 220 bhp (HC pistons and
                mild cam) against the originals which were less than 140
                hp.   The low bhp was I believe because the engine put
                out too much heat for the engine bay.  After getting
                more BHP it took me ages to tame the beast so that it
                did not overheat.   I ended up with double ceramic
                coated exhaust manifold, custom aluminium radiator, and
                phenolic gasket for the engine/carburettor (downdraft
                Weber).    Now all is well and I believe 220 is a low
                ball number.   But I believe the handling of the factory
                V8 is much better then the C.   Not that I am biased or
                anything ....and what harm is there to have 200lbs
                sitting on your bonnet??<br>
              </font></font><br>
            <div>On 12/24/2019 8:50 AM, Dan DiBiase via Mgs wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">Rick, the MGB-GT V8 was built from 1973 -
                1976, using the 3.5 liter Rover V8 (which was originally
                a GM engine I believe) - it made less than 140 HP and
                about 195 ft/lbs of torque. Introduced at the height of
                the energy crisis...... There were only about 2,600
                made.
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Personally, I prefer the MGC.</div>
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                </div>
                <div>Dan D</div>
                <div>Central NJ USA<br clear="all">
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 24, 2019
                  at 8:08 AM Richard Lindsay via Mgs &lt;<a
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                  <div dir="auto">Hello friends,
                    <div dir="auto">   This talk about the B-GT has me
                      wondering about other MGs, specifically the V8
                      cars. That was a Rover V8 right? In which bodies
                      and years was it used? Ever in the B-GT? Any real
                      power or torque advantage? Yea, I'm just having a
                      nerd moment...</div>
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                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto">Rick</div>
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