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RE: FW: A coop

To: "'Pete Thelander'" <pthelander@earthlink.net>, <TATERRY@aol.com>, <awfock@optushome.com.au>, <mg-mmm@Autox.Team.Net>, <cnowlan@aol.com>
Subject: RE: FW: A coop
From: "Lew Palmer" <lpalmer@roundaboutmanor.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:00:32 -0600
In-reply-to: <9DD95D70980E0146835C9704E0B5CC961C9C2F@manor.roundabout.com>
Reply-to: "Lew Palmer" <lpalmer@roundaboutmanor.com>
Sender: owner-mg-mmm@Autox.Team.Net
OK, guys. Let me set the record straight.

Pete and Chris are essentially correct.

The Blackhawk car restored by Jack Berry is, in fact now in Japan in the
hands of Tokugoro Ogawa. It's chassis number is PB0320, license MG4402.

The car currently for sale is PB0334 license CGO754. It was owned a long
time ago by Gene Ponder then sold to Pat Hart who passed away a year or two
ago. Bill Hart is Pat's son who inherited the car along with a huge
collection (50 cars?) of MGs and Ferraris including the two Ken Miles cars
R1 and R2, an M-type, a couple of SAs, and assorted others.

Gene Ponder also owned PB0384 license MG4293 now owned by Ken Seymour and
has recently purchased the ex-Dave Lawley NA Airline NA0848, license BRT441.

The Ogawa and Ponder NAs are duo-tone green. The Seymour and Hart cars are
duo-tone blue, although as late as 2001 the Hart car was only light blue.

The details, photographs, and ownership information for the surviving 26 of
the 49 Triple-M Airlines plus the one TA Airline all may be found on the
Airline Coupe Registry web site at:
        http://www.roundaboutmanor.com/airline

Cheers,
Lew Palmer


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-mg-mmm@Autox.Team.Net [mailto:owner-mg-mmm@Autox.Team.Net] On
Behalf Of Pete Thelander
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 12:40 PM
To: TATERRY@aol.com; awfock@optushome.com.au; mg-mmm@Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: FW: A coop

Andrew, Terry, et al,
This is not the Jack Berry/Blackhawk museum car.  That one is green and is
in Japan and owned by Ogawa Tokugoro according to the Airline Registery
Site, roundaboutmanor.com.  
This car, Reg  # CGO 754, is listed in the 2002 MMM Register as owned by
Gene Ponder and on  roundaboutmanor.com as owned by Bill Hart (should that
be Pat Hart??). Who knows which is the more current owner.  I recall Gene
Ponder had a sale some years ago that included an Airline.  If I can find
my catalogue from that sale, I might be able to tell.

Pete and Fran Thelander
pthelander@earthlink.net

Pete and Fran Thelander
pthelander@earthlink.net



> [Original Message]
> From: <TATERRY@aol.com>
> To: <awfock@optushome.com.au>; <mg-mmm@Autox.Team.Net>
> Date: 12/11/2004 7:11:47 AM
> Subject: Re: FW: A coop
>
> In a message dated 12/11/2004 3:14:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
> awfock@optushome.com.au writes:
>
>
> > Ebay item 4510615856
> > 
>
> This looks like the Airline that was in the Blackhawk museum and then was 
> sold to Japan.  I've got a block on the name of the gentlemen in SoCal
that 
> restored it.  He got to show it at Pebble just before he died.  His widow
donated 
> it to Blackhawk.  Lew Palmer must know the car.
> It makes my SA Tickford now at fantasayjunction.com look price
competitive!!
>
> Cheers,
> Terry in Oakland, soon to have NA0613 in a new suit of clothes........!!!
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