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RE: Distributor

To: <Kellmg@aol.com>, <mg-mmm@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Distributor
From: "Lew Palmer" <lpalmer@mn.mediaone.net>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:37:38 -0500
In-reply-to: <99.1a79566f.28ced614@aol.com>
Reply-to: "Lew Palmer" <lpalmer@mn.mediaone.net>
Sender: owner-mg-mmm@autox.team.net
Brian et al,

Regarding parts, setup, and knowledge of all MG distributors: I have
found Jim Taylor of Bartlesville, OK to be a whiz at this stuff. His
prices are VERY modest, and, as a retired engineer for Phillips
Petroleum, seems to have the knowledge and equipment to set these up for
modern use. I've never had to spend more than about $50 with him to make
some pretty ugly distributors very functional.

Jim advertises in TSO, so you should be able to find his address and
phone. Let me know if you have trouble.

Regards,
Lew Palmer

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-mg-mmm@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-mg-mmm@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Kellmg@aol.com
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:51 PM
To: mg-mmm@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Distributor

Bob, Pip, and List,

The first distributor that was tested on the analyzer was
DK4A   404 332   fitted with a 12 degree advanced plate that actually
read 30 
degree
on test.

550 dist. rpm. [1100 engine rpm.]      5 degree advanced.
565                                                10
600                                                15
675                                                20
700                                                30

Obviously, the plate and or weights and springs had been altered.

The second distributor that was tested, 

DK4A   402 24B.      13 degree max on test.
  410  dist. rpm.  [820 engine rpm.]     5 degree advance.
1000                                                9
1400                                              13 degree max.

I know that the P Type's originally had,
Series number      400 186
Ordering number   404 424
Reference Lucas Cat. 1939.

My question now being, how to locate parts to bring these two
distributors up 
to the P specifications?
How critical have other owners been in identifying and testing the curve

factor on their engines? 

As for Avgas? No.
Thanks for your input so far.

Brian Kelly.

n a message dated 09/10/2001 7:45:39 PM Central Daylight Time, 
mgwizard@caloundra.net writes:


> You guys with distributor problems are just beginning to find all the
fun.
> 
> Firstly P's originally ran 20 degrees advance starting @ 2000 rpm &
all 
> gone by 4000.00.  However, remember that today's fuels are all
different.
> 
> I hope the chap who is running 7.4 compression ratio is not  using
Avgas 
> as that is a slow burning fuel & totally wrong for our cars.  I have 
> several original P-type distributors and graphs etc from Lucas so if 
> numbers are needed I can assist.  Again, I must point out that a
second 
> hand distributor is very likely to have been changed in more way than
one 
> in over 60 years of use.  So be careful.
> 
> Very similar distributor was used in some Hillmans.
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Pip Bucknell
> Australia
> 
> 
> "Robert Grunau" <cgrunau@pathcom.com>
> Sent by: owner-mg-mmm@autox.team.net
> 11.09.2001 08:59
> Please respond to "Robert Grunau"
> 
> 
>         To:     <Kellmg@aol.com>, <mg-mmm@autox.team.net>
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        RE: Distributor
> Hi Brian,
> You must supply the specific distributor part number, usually a 5 or 6

> digit
> number starting with 4 and possibly ending in a letter. The DK4A is
only 
> the
> model number. Hundreds of different distributors have this model
number.
> I have a Lucas parts book which begins in 1939, your P type
distributor 
> may
> be listed and if so we can at least find the total advance and
possibly 
> some
> intermediate advances for various RPMs.
> Regards, Bob
> 
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> Can anyone supply information regarding the curve of the DK4A
Distributor?
> 
> Recently, on the list, it was suggested that an 8 degree auto advance
be
> fitted.
> What was the original advance on the P Type?  I had mine on a "Sun 
> Analyzer"
> and it was way over advanced. Are new shaft and action plates
available in
> different degrees? Nothing mentioned in Dowley's catalogue.
> 
> The compression ratio on mine has been raised to around 7.4 to 1.
> Any and all info. gratefully received.
> 
> Brian Kelly.
> PS.
>        As a matter of interest the DK4A signifies,
> D- distributor
> K- cast iron body with molded contact breaker base and die-cast auto
> advanced
>      weights.
> 4- cylinders.
> A- auto advanced.
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