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Re: valve train problems

To: "Gene Halvorson" <ghalvorson@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: valve train problems
From: "Ed Van Scoy" <edvs@uswest.net>
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 08:37:51 -0700
Gene;
Moroso makes a rocker arm oil deflector for stamped rocker arms,  that mounts 
on the
studs, that is designed to solve your problem and at less than $25, cheaper 
than new
covers
Ed

Gene Halvorson wrote:

> Thanks to those who have sent me suggestions on troubleshooting my valve
> train problems on my big block chuby.  I have not yet completed the
> diagnostic workup so there is more to come.  However, I might add that the
> usual issues such as valve to piston clearance, spring bind, correct pushrod
> length for geometry are things I did when I assembled the motor.  I have no
> reason to suspect a change, other than abnormally worn or broken part.  And
> the motor has given me about 1500 miles of good use with numerous high rpm 
>spins
> (after a lengthy break in period.)
>
>
>
> Now, the good doctor has found some new clues:
>
>     1. When I first pulled off the valve cover I
> smelled the inside of the cover.  I didn't like the smell.
>
>     2. As I was looking at the valve train I noticed
> that the rocker that was completely off and the two that were either loose or
> had bent pushrods had nuts that were a different color than the rest.
> I used the nuts that came with the Competition Cams stamped steel roller
> rockers.  They are kind of a anodized gold color.  But those that had
> a problem were black.
>
>     3. Upon further inspection of the problem rockers I
> noticed there was a lot of black carbon deposit on the outside lower part of 
>the
> rocker, around the area that the pivot ball is located.  I was surprised to
> see carbon deposits on an engine that has so few miles on it.
>
>     4. Inspection of the pivot balls show galling and
> even discoloration of the matting surface of one  rocker.  It almost
> looks blue.
>
>     5. Oil up through the pushrods is not the
> problem.  The last time I played with the lash while the engine was running
> and the covers were off it looked like I just dumped a quart of oil all over 
>the
> engine compartment.  I had to stop because the smoke was too thick to see
> through.  Even with the clips on the rockers.  And, I did check each
> and every rocker to make sure it was getting oil.
>
>
>
> By now the pieces of the puzzle were falling into place and I already
> suspected the source of the problem but I had to call Comp Cams and run it
> by them anyway.  After I explained the symptoms and my observations the
> first question the guy asked me was "Are you running tall valve covers?"
>
>
>
> When I bought the engine it had on a set of chrome Edelbrock valve
> covers that are just a bit over stock height.  That is what I
> still run.  They're real purdy lookin!  But sure enough, a closer look
> underneath reveals the lack of a drip rail.
>
>
>
> I agree with the Comp Cams guy when he says there isn't a problem
> at low speed but at continues high speed, the oil isn't flowing into the 
>rocker
> cup but is getting flung off onto the cover and is running across the top and
> down the side.  The springs are probably getting lots of oil but the pivot
> ball is not getting enough at high rpm.  At least it's obvious that the
> rockers are not getting enough oil.  And I don't think it's the fault of
> that Melling high volume pump.  I don't use restrictor plugs as I would
> rather pump more oil for a few HP than have happen what is happening.
>
>
>
> Anyone have a set of valve covers for sale?      I
> do!
>
> --- Gene Halvorson

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