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Re: Speed Week concerns

To: john robinson <john@engr.wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: Speed Week concerns
From: Dave Dahlgren <ddahlgren@snet.net>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:20:06 -0400
perfect way to make friends and influence people... And it has been said i have
been rude.. A bunch of yahwho's?? me thinks you need to look at your little sig
file at the end of your messages before you use the 'think they know-it all'
comment about other people..

Another brainless fool doing the best i can ......

john robinson wrote:
> 
> Howdy,
>          Actually I thought that the tech guys would be THE place to ask. I
> would rather have correct answers from the guys who should know and would
> holler if I am doing something that is unsafe, then an answer from a yahwho
> who think he knows it all...
>          I just got Tom Murphy's book on LSR motorcycles, yeah I can relate
> to your thoughts on streamlined bikes........he is a nice guy, met him
> while at the Salt this year....
> 
> At 09:46 PM 8/29/01, you wrote:
> >John,
> >
> >  A couple things I would like to add here ( remember I know nothing )
> >but the comment, " I am not able to see forward" that is something you
> >should keep to
> >yourself tech guys dont like to hear that kinda talk. I would say if you
> >have a
> >problem seeing you need to modify something so you can. (Im not trying to
> >be ignorant
> >even though it sounds like it)
> >The center line was the oil slick I would beleive. Dont know what else one
> >could want.
> >Or explain center line, I thought it was dead in the middle myself.
> >As for your generator problem I can relate. The ECTA guys were very kind
> >in marking a
> >pit area for Landracing.com (Joe Amo, Jon Amo) and Mountain States
> >Automation that was
> >VERY clearly marked and to my suprise I went back and some racer took both
> >the pits
> >that were marked for us. When I confronted them they said OO I didnt know
> >they were
> >marked, the lettering was abount 2 feet high and however long the two pits
> >were. I was
> >pretty pissed, how ignorant could one be. But you know what there is alot
> >of salty
> >pits there. I just found another one. So moral of the story there are
> >plenty of other
> >awesome racers you can pit next too. But he in return is correct he can
> >run it as long
> >as he wants, but really hard to make friends that way, His loss cause Im
> >sure you are
> >a great person.
> >Just my two cents, and you cant buy much with that anymore.
> >
> >Jonathan Amo (who knows nothing, thinking of a wierd motorcycle
> >streamliner body,
> >again I know nothing.)
> >
> >
> >john robinson wrote:
> >
> > > Howdy,
> > >         I have a couple of concerns about running at Speedweek this
> > year. I ran
> > > a motorcycle, did OK with it (actually set a record but it lasted only one
> > > day), but did have a problem with running on the Salt that other 
>motorcycle
> > > riders also have.
> > >         There is no center line to run on.
> > >         My bike is a vintage racer, and when I drop behind the fairing,
> > I am not
> > > able to see forward.  As this is the first time I ran a bike at the Salt, 
>I
> > > asked other bikers how they did it, including the guys in Tech. Mostly, 
>the
> > > answer was to have a slightly loose helmet that you shove up on your
> > > forehead, and try to look at the line on the side of the track and follow
> > > it. Some of the other riders remember when they had a center line to run
> > > on, and commented that it felt safer running with it.
> > >         I don't know when the centerline was removed, but for the
> > safety of the
> > > riders, feel that it should be brought back.
> > >         One of the reasons I heard (that the center line was removed)
> > was that the
> > > environmental (I did have a comment here, but deleted it ) concern was of
> > > putting used oil into the environment at the Salt. I do understand this,
> > > but feel that the safety of the riders would be a higher concern than the
> > > amount of used motor oil poured on the salt. ( I >think< you are still
> > > using used motor oil, please correct me if I am wrong), and if the marker
> > > is a benign coloring agent, what is the reason for not having a center
> > line?
> > >         Another concern I had was the running of generators. I was in
> > an area that
> > > had a guy running his generator, ( an older B&S engined genset, one of
> > > those with a louder muffler and the usual B&S rattle) about 70% of the 
>day.
> > > It was irritating, and even though several of the surrounding pits asked
> > > for a reduction of run time, the gentleman in question said, in effect, I
> > > can run this if I want to.
> > >          I did not bring my genset to the salt this year, but have in
> > other years,
> > > and attempt to run it only as little as I can, mostly for charging the
> > > racecar battery, and so do understand his position. Maybe gensets could be
> > > relegated to the perimeter of the pits, at least those that have longer
> > > runtimes? I'll bet I am not the first with this concern, and would also 
>bet
> > > much wrangling has gone on about it.
> > >          Anyway, I thought this years' SpeedWeek went very well, and
> > wish to thank
> > > everyone involved in its creation. Thanks a lot, drive careful
> > >
> > >               John Robinson, Mechanician
> > >    Mechanical Engineering University of Wisconsin
> > >                  1513 University Ave.
> > >                   Madison, Wi. 53706
> > >                      608-262-3606
> > >                    FAX 608-265-2316
> > >         Current World Land Speed Record Holder
> > >                  Bonneville Salt Flats
> > >             H/GCC 92 cu.in. 1980 Dodge Colt
> > >                    131.333 MPH set 1995
> > >                    136.666 MPH set 1996
> > >                    140.292 MPH set 2000
> > >                    144.396 MPH set 2000
> > >         MPS-PG 441 c.c. 1967 BSA Victor 441                     Motorcycle
> > >                     95.193 MPH set 2001
> > >
> > >
> 
>               John Robinson, Mechanician
>    Mechanical Engineering University of Wisconsin
>                  1513 University Ave.
>                   Madison, Wi. 53706
>                      608-262-3606
>                    FAX 608-265-2316
>         Current World Land Speed Record Holder
>                  Bonneville Salt Flats
>             H/GCC 92 cu.in. 1980 Dodge Colt
>                    131.333 MPH set 1995
>                    136.666 MPH set 1996
>                    140.292 MPH set 2000
>                    144.396 MPH set 2000
>      MPS-PG 441 c.c. 1967 BSA Victor Motorcycle
>                     95.193 MPH set 2001

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