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Re: Speed Week concerns

To: "Jonathan Amo" <webmaster@landracing.com>
Subject: Re: Speed Week concerns
From: john robinson <john@engr.wisc.edu>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 08:39:59 -0500
Howdy,
         Actually I thought that the tech guys would be THE place to ask. I 
would rather have correct answers from the guys who should know and would 
holler if I am doing something that is unsafe, then an answer from a yahwho 
who think he knows it all...
         I just got Tom Murphy's book on LSR motorcycles, yeah I can relate 
to your thoughts on streamlined bikes........he is a nice guy, met him 
while at the Salt this year....

At 09:46 PM 8/29/01, you wrote:
>John,
>
>  A couple things I would like to add here ( remember I know nothing )
>but the comment, " I am not able to see forward" that is something you 
>should keep to
>yourself tech guys dont like to hear that kinda talk. I would say if you 
>have a
>problem seeing you need to modify something so you can. (Im not trying to 
>be ignorant
>even though it sounds like it)
>The center line was the oil slick I would beleive. Dont know what else one 
>could want.
>Or explain center line, I thought it was dead in the middle myself.
>As for your generator problem I can relate. The ECTA guys were very kind 
>in marking a
>pit area for Landracing.com (Joe Amo, Jon Amo) and Mountain States 
>Automation that was
>VERY clearly marked and to my suprise I went back and some racer took both 
>the pits
>that were marked for us. When I confronted them they said OO I didnt know 
>they were
>marked, the lettering was abount 2 feet high and however long the two pits 
>were. I was
>pretty pissed, how ignorant could one be. But you know what there is alot 
>of salty
>pits there. I just found another one. So moral of the story there are 
>plenty of other
>awesome racers you can pit next too. But he in return is correct he can 
>run it as long
>as he wants, but really hard to make friends that way, His loss cause Im 
>sure you are
>a great person.
>Just my two cents, and you cant buy much with that anymore.
>
>Jonathan Amo (who knows nothing, thinking of a wierd motorcycle 
>streamliner body,
>again I know nothing.)
>
>
>john robinson wrote:
>
> > Howdy,
> >         I have a couple of concerns about running at Speedweek this 
> year. I ran
> > a motorcycle, did OK with it (actually set a record but it lasted only one
> > day), but did have a problem with running on the Salt that other motorcycle
> > riders also have.
> >         There is no center line to run on.
> >         My bike is a vintage racer, and when I drop behind the fairing, 
> I am not
> > able to see forward.  As this is the first time I ran a bike at the Salt, I
> > asked other bikers how they did it, including the guys in Tech. Mostly, the
> > answer was to have a slightly loose helmet that you shove up on your
> > forehead, and try to look at the line on the side of the track and follow
> > it. Some of the other riders remember when they had a center line to run
> > on, and commented that it felt safer running with it.
> >         I don't know when the centerline was removed, but for the 
> safety of the
> > riders, feel that it should be brought back.
> >         One of the reasons I heard (that the center line was removed) 
> was that the
> > environmental (I did have a comment here, but deleted it ) concern was of
> > putting used oil into the environment at the Salt. I do understand this,
> > but feel that the safety of the riders would be a higher concern than the
> > amount of used motor oil poured on the salt. ( I >think< you are still
> > using used motor oil, please correct me if I am wrong), and if the marker
> > is a benign coloring agent, what is the reason for not having a center 
> line?
> >         Another concern I had was the running of generators. I was in 
> an area that
> > had a guy running his generator, ( an older B&S engined genset, one of
> > those with a louder muffler and the usual B&S rattle) about 70% of the day.
> > It was irritating, and even though several of the surrounding pits asked
> > for a reduction of run time, the gentleman in question said, in effect, I
> > can run this if I want to.
> >          I did not bring my genset to the salt this year, but have in 
> other years,
> > and attempt to run it only as little as I can, mostly for charging the
> > racecar battery, and so do understand his position. Maybe gensets could be
> > relegated to the perimeter of the pits, at least those that have longer
> > runtimes? I'll bet I am not the first with this concern, and would also bet
> > much wrangling has gone on about it.
> >          Anyway, I thought this years' SpeedWeek went very well, and 
> wish to thank
> > everyone involved in its creation. Thanks a lot, drive careful
> >
> >               John Robinson, Mechanician
> >    Mechanical Engineering University of Wisconsin
> >                  1513 University Ave.
> >                   Madison, Wi. 53706
> >                      608-262-3606
> >                    FAX 608-265-2316
> >         Current World Land Speed Record Holder
> >                  Bonneville Salt Flats
> >             H/GCC 92 cu.in. 1980 Dodge Colt
> >                    131.333 MPH set 1995
> >                    136.666 MPH set 1996
> >                    140.292 MPH set 2000
> >                    144.396 MPH set 2000
> >         MPS-PG 441 c.c. 1967 BSA Victor 441                     Motorcycle
> >                     95.193 MPH set 2001
> >
> >


              John Robinson, Mechanician
   Mechanical Engineering University of Wisconsin
                 1513 University Ave.
                  Madison, Wi. 53706
                     608-262-3606
                   FAX 608-265-2316
        Current World Land Speed Record Holder
                 Bonneville Salt Flats
            H/GCC 92 cu.in. 1980 Dodge Colt
                   131.333 MPH set 1995
                   136.666 MPH set 1996
                   140.292 MPH set 2000
                   144.396 MPH set 2000
     MPS-PG 441 c.c. 1967 BSA Victor Motorcycle
                    95.193 MPH set 2001

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