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Re: Spoiler/Wing, Dynamic/Active aids.

To: Mike Jenkins <MikeJ@speedrecordclub.softnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Spoiler/Wing, Dynamic/Active aids.
From: Don Kerr <dkveuro@pop.flash.net>
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 14:48:26 -0600
So, Mike, where does a car/bike become a plane? See my last post.
...........DK
    (Scrap-Iron Racin')
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Mike Jenkins wrote:
> 
> Don,
> 
> SSC is legal because what the active system does is to optimise the attitude
> of the whole vehicle to the ground, not just a wing.
>  The FIA actually have a class for Ground Effect Vehicles which are defined
> as 'Vehicles which take a bearing on the ground by the means of a
> pressurised air cushion, magnetised levitation or similar means'. I guess
> this class is for hovercraft or possibly 'Wing in Ground Effect' vehicles
> like the Russian 'Ekranoplans'.
> 
> Mike Jenkins
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Don Kerr <dkveuro@pop.flash.net>
> To: Mike Jenkins <MikeJ@speedrecordclub.softnet.co.uk>;
> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 8:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Spoiler/Wing, Dynamic/Active aids.
> 
> > Mike.....et al.......
> >         This raises lots of questions, does Thrust SST use of active
> > equipment mean it is allowable in speed events?
> > .After all, if a LSR is to remain an LSR would it be so if the vehicle
> > was off the ground going through the lights and does it have to touch
> > the ground ALL the way during the measured mile, so what's the
> > separation of LSR from ASR ??..........DK.......Well?
> >     (Scrap-Iron Racin')
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------
> >
> >    Mike Jenkins wrote:
> > >
> > > Don,
> >  Thrust SSC used an active system on the rear wheels only to keep the
> > car at an attitude
> > > where it wouldn't fly.
> > >
> > > Mike Jenkins
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Don Kerr <dkveuro@pop.flash.net>
> > > To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 12:39 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Spoiler/Wing
> > >
> > > > ...Hallo people, hope you are all doin' OK.
> > > >      Just been watchin' video of old land and water speed attempts,
> lots
> > > > of spills!!!.....Question....Is it allowable to use a dynamic wing or
> > > > stabilizer on a vehicle of any type or a particular type to try for a
> > > > record in any category ? The reason I ask is because the instability
> > > > observed during most runs especially on water craft .When I was nuts
> > > > enough to run high speed on motorcycles,(200+ mph) the speed wobble on
> > > > some bikes was so powerful even a knee(s) against the bars wouldn't
> hold
> > > > it. Dampers only increased the frequency, in the order of from 4 to 10
> > > > cycles per second.
> > > >      What I had in mind was a computer controlled wing somewhat like
> the
> > > > system used in fighter aircraft,
> > > > to allow the pilot to fly an otherwise inherently unstable
> > > > aeroplanes.Does anyone foresee a potential problem here? Power to
> > > > operate the ram(s) from a small hydraulic pump, accumulator, kinda
> like
> > > > the  Lotus F1 car suspension. Obviously some parasitic power loss or
> > > > weight penalty, but nothing comes free.
> > > > Your thoughts?....................DK
> >
> >        (Scrap-Iron Racin' )
> > > >
> >

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