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Re: [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.

To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.
From: Hank Leach via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 22:59:05 +0000 w2QvqQ0s8CZQJYfHUnCFitZbOc9tqMDZcmeVn8fd9gf4mN+cCICoi/f8lu5M9L07dODiBqt/qeDv4Xo+KKPgtGqZhJHi0thYKxlsu2yHzeasfFh/pbTdq2om vOxHzSL3BGmsgpWTbECs4w==
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<div>Michael O-what a great comment! They must have met Joe Lucas. =
Hank<br>-------------------- <br><br>From: "Michael Oritt" &lt;michael.=
oritt@gmail.com&gt; <br>To: &lt;gradea1@charter.net&gt; <br>Cc: "Michael =
Salter" &lt;michaelsalter@gmail.com&gt;, &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; =
<br>Sent: March 20, 2026 at 1:45 PM PDT <br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] =
Replacement Turn Signal Relay. </div>
<div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"color: #3333ff;">Avoiding&nbsp;toasted wires and&nbsp;appliances =
trumps originality for me and I try to protect all circuits with either =
cb's or fuses and to separate applications as much as&nbsp;possible.Though =
some well-respected Healey service people think otherwise, I have never =
understood the concept of not protecting headlights.&nbsp; Yes, a fuse =
might burn or a cb might trip, taking the lights out but, lacking =
protection, whatever caused that to happen would probably&nbsp;burn up the =
wiring.&nbsp;&nbsp;As to the original setup which used a 50 amp fuse I =
think one may as well have used a nail.&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: #3333ff;">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: #3333ff;">BTW I wonder what =
The Stones meant when in "You Can't Always Get What You Want" they =
sang:&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: =
#3333ff;"><em><span style=3D"font-family: Roboto,Arial,=
sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></em></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"color: #3333ff;"><em style=3D"color: rgb(0,0,255);"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;">And I went down to the =
demonstration&nbsp;</span></em></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"color: #3333ff;"><em style=3D"color: rgb(0,0,255);"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;">To get my fair share of =
abuse&nbsp;</span></em></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: =
#3333ff;"><em style=3D"color: rgb(0,0,255);"><span class=3D"gmail-Rxerq" =
style=3D"font-weight: bolder; font-family: Roboto,Arial,=
sans-serif;">Singing, "We're gonna vent our frustration"&nbsp;</span></em><=
/div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: #3333ff;"><em =
style=3D"color: rgb(0,0,255);"><span style=3D"font-family: Roboto,Arial,=
sans-serif;">If we don't, we're going to blow a 50-amp =
fuse"&nbsp;</span></em></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: =
#3333ff;"><em style=3D"color: rgb(0,0,255);"><span style=3D"font-family: =
Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></em></div>
<div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: #3333ff;"><span style=3D"color: =
rgb(0,0,255);"><span style=3D"font-family: Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;">Maybe =
one of them owned a Healey?</span></span></div>
<div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: #3333ff;"><span style=3D"color: =
rgb(0,0,255);"><span style=3D"font-family: Roboto,Arial,=
sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></span></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"color: #3333ff;"><span style=3D"color: rgb(0,0,255);"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;">Best--Michael =
Oritt</span></span></div>
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at =
2:04=E2=80=AFPM Hank Leach via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.=
team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;=
 wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,204,204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>Yes, and time for a reminder to fuse the tail lights <strong>red =
wire</strong> as if in a rear end collision the shorting of the lamps could=
 burn all the way down to the panel. At the same time the headlights, which=
 are also unfused, could use an inline unit at the<strong> blue =
wire</strong> of the headlight switch. Not much fusing on the Healeys which=
 makes for good Lucas smoke. Hank<br>-------------------- <br><br>From: =
"Michael Salter" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt; <br>To: =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noopener">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <br>Sent: March 20, 2026 at=
 9:50 AM PDT <br>Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.</div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: arial,=
sans-serif; font-size: small;">All Big Healeys prior to the later Phase 2 =
BJ8 use a Lusas 33117 relay for the turn signals. This relay connects the =
appropriate&nbsp;lamps to the turn signal flasher unit, overriding&nbsp;the=
 brake light switch on turns.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: small;">These Lucas =
relays were a very primitive&nbsp;(by today's standards) but very robust =
unit and could withstand a short circuit as often happens with the glass =
lens&nbsp;type&nbsp;594&nbsp;turn/side/brake lamps used on these models at =
least until the fuse blew.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: small;">Within these =
lamps it is very easy to produce a short to ground.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: arial,sans-serif; =
font-size: small;">Over the last few years replacements for these relays =
have been provided,&nbsp;under the Lucas&nbsp;name and the same 33117 part =
number, which have been completely redesigned and incorporate 2 modern =
G2R-1-E relays.&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: small;">I have =
purchased&nbsp;2 of these modern style&nbsp;relays and both have failed =
because the&nbsp; G2R-1-E relay relays don't seem to be anywhere near as =
robust as the originals and fail before the 35 amp fuse can protect them..=
&nbsp; &nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: =
arial,sans-serif; font-size: small;">So, a word of caution, if you are =
using one of these (improved) cheapo repo turn signal relays, be very =
careful to avoid short circuits in the turn/brake/side lamps.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: arial,sans-serif; =
font-size: small;">The attached&nbsp;pics are of the original type and the =
circuit board from the "improved" replacement.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: arial,sans-serif; =
font-size: small;">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: small;">M&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: arial,sans-serif; =
font-size: small;"><br><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: small;">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: arial,sans-serif; =
font-size: small;">&nbsp;</div>
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