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Avoiding toasted wires and appliances trumps originality for me and I try
to protect all circuits with either cb's or fuses and to separate
applications as much as possible.Though some well-respected Healey service
people think otherwise, I have never understood the concept of not
protecting headlights. Yes, a fuse might burn or a cb might trip, taking
the lights out but, lacking protection, whatever caused that to happen
would probably burn up the wiring. As to the original setup which used a
50 amp fuse I think one may as well have used a nail.
BTW I wonder what The Stones meant when in "You Can't Always Get What You
Want" they sang:
*And I went down to the demonstration *
*To get my fair share of abuse *
*Singing, "We're gonna vent our frustration" *
*If we don't, we're going to blow a 50-amp fuse" *
Maybe one of them owned a Healey?
Best--Michael Oritt
On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 2:04=E2=80=AFPM Hank Leach via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
> Yes, and time for a reminder to fuse the tail lights *red wire* as if in
> a rear end collision the shorting of the lamps could burn all the way dow=
n
> to the panel. At the same time the headlights, which are also unfused,
> could use an inline unit at the* blue wire* of the headlight switch. Not
> much fusing on the Healeys which makes for good Lucas smoke. Hank
> --------------------
>
> From: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: March 20, 2026 at 9:50 AM PDT
> Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.
> All Big Healeys prior to the later Phase 2 BJ8 use a Lusas 33117 relay fo=
r
> the turn signals. This relay connects the appropriate lamps to the turn
> signal flasher unit, overriding the brake light switch on turns.
> These Lucas relays were a very primitive (by today's standards) but very
> robust unit and could withstand a short circuit as often happens with the
> glass lens type 594 turn/side/brake lamps used on these models at least
> until the fuse blew.
> Within these lamps it is very easy to produce a short to ground.
> Over the last few years replacements for these relays have been
> provided, under the Lucas name and the same 33117 part number, which have
> been completely redesigned and incorporate 2 modern G2R-1-E relays.
> I have purchased 2 of these modern style relays and both have failed
> because the G2R-1-E relay relays don't seem to be anywhere near as robus=
t
> as the originals and fail before the 35 amp fuse can protect them..
> So, a word of caution, if you are using one of these (improved) cheapo
> repo turn signal relays, be very careful to avoid short circuits in the
> turn/brake/side lamps.
> The attached pics are of the original type and the circuit board from the
> "improved" replacement.
>
> M
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Avoid=
ing=C2=A0toasted wires and=C2=A0appliances trumps originality for me and I =
try to protect all circuits with either cb's or fuses and to separate a=
pplications as much as=C2=A0possible.Though some well-respected Healey serv=
ice people think otherwise, I have never understood the concept of not prot=
ecting headlights.=C2=A0 Yes, a fuse might burn or a cb might trip, taking =
the lights out but, lacking protection, whatever caused that to happen woul=
d probably=C2=A0burn up the wiring.=C2=A0=C2=A0<font color=3D"#3333ff">As t=
o the original setup which used a 50 amp fuse I think one may as well have =
used a nail.=C2=A0</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:=
#3333ff"><font color=3D"#3333ff"><br></font></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><font color=3D"#3333ff">BTW I wonder what The S=
tones meant when in "You Can't Always Get What You Want" they=
sang:=C2=A0</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333f=
f"><font color=3D"#0000ff"><i><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-=
serif"><br></span></i></font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"co=
lor:#3333ff"><i style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255)"><span style=3D"font-family:Rob=
oto,Arial,sans-serif">And I went down to the demonstration=C2=A0</span></i>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><i style=3D"colo=
r:rgb(0,0,255)"><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-serif">To get =
my fair share of abuse=C2=A0</span></i></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"color:#3333ff"><i style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255)"><span class=3D"gmail=
-Rxerq" style=3D"font-weight:bolder;font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-serif">Si=
nging, "We're gonna vent our frustration"=C2=A0</span></i></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><i style=3D"color:r=
gb(0,0,255)"><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-serif">If we don&=
#39;t, we're going to blow a 50-amp fuse"=C2=A0</span></i></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><i style=3D"color:rgb(0,=
0,255)"><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-serif"><br></span></i>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(0,0,255)"><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-serif">Mayb=
e one of them owned a Healey?</span></span></div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255)"><span style=
=3D"font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-serif"><br></span></span></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255=
)"><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-serif">Best--Michael Oritt<=
/span></span></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 2:04=E2=80=AFPM Hank Leach via H=
ealeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">heal=
eys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding-left:1ex"><div>Yes, and time for a reminder to fuse the tail lights=
<strong>red wire</strong> as if in a rear end collision the shorting of th=
e lamps could burn all the way down to the panel. At the same time the head=
lights, which are also unfused, could use an inline unit at the<strong> blu=
e wire</strong> of the headlight switch. Not much fusing on the Healeys whi=
ch makes for good Lucas smoke. Hank<br>-------------------- <br><br>From: &=
quot;Michael Salter" <<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>> <br>To: <<a href=3D"mail=
to:healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>=
<br>Sent: March 20, 2026 at 9:50 AM PDT <br>Subject: [Healeys] Replacement=
Turn Signal Relay. </div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small">All Big Healeys prior to the later Phase 2 BJ8 use a Lusas 33117 r=
elay for the turn signals. This relay connects the appropriate=C2=A0lamps t=
o the turn signal flasher unit, overriding=C2=A0the brake light switch on t=
urns.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small">These Lucas relays were a very primitive=C2=A0(by today's stan=
dards) but very robust unit and could withstand a short circuit as often ha=
ppens with the glass lens=C2=A0type=C2=A0594=C2=A0turn/side/brake lamps use=
d on these models at least until the fuse blew.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small">Within these lamps it is very easy to produce a short to ground.</=
div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small">Over the last few years replacements for these relays have been pr=
ovided,=C2=A0under the Lucas=C2=A0name and the same 33117 part number, whic=
h have been completely redesigned and incorporate 2 modern G2R-1-E relays.=
=C2=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small">I have purchased=C2=A02 of these modern style=C2=A0relays and both=
have failed because the=C2=A0 G2R-1-E relay relays don't seem to be an=
ywhere near as robust as the originals and fail before the 35 amp fuse can =
protect them..=C2=A0 =C2=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small">So, a word of caution, if you are using one of these (improved) ch=
eapo repo turn signal relays, be very careful to avoid short circuits in th=
e turn/brake/side lamps.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small">The attached=C2=A0pics are of the original type and the circuit bo=
ard from the "improved" replacement.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small">=C2=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small">M=C2=A0</div>
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e:small"><br><br><br></div>
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e:small">=C2=A0</div>
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