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Re: [Healeys] Healey gear reduction starter

To: Robert Markovich <rmarkovich@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey gear reduction starter
From: David Masucci via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2025 13:25:39 -0400
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Yep=E2=80=A6I=E2=80=99m happy with a Healey being the best based on =
it=E2=80=99s original design=E2=80=A6with minor tweaks of course. But =
Jon that rack and pinion upgrade sounds pretty cool though.=20


> On Jun 9, 2025, at 1:00 PM, Robert Markovich via Healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>=20
> Maybe the improved conventional setup is kind of a good idea =E2=80=A6
>=20
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> On Monday, June 9, 2025, 12:56 PM, Richard Mayor =
<boyracer466@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Yes, just bolt in an MGB rack and pinion. Anywhere will do. No need to =
worry about that thing called "bump steer".  Oh, and that rack will have =
to go in the space where the radiator is currently located.  No worries. =
Just have a custom radiator built that will fit in the new forward - =
angled space - that needs to go forward of the MG rack.  But first, fab =
up those braces that must be welded to the chassis legs to support that =
new custom radiator.  Last but not least. Reconfigure those steering =
arms for the new steering geometry to eliminate bump steer.  Oh wait, =
Then there are the universal joints and double D steering shaft and that =
upper part of the column that needs to be cut, modified, supported, =
braced and massaged to locate the stock steering wheel.=20
>=20
> Here's a photo of my work in progress for mounting an MGB rack.  It =
has taken me many, many, hours so far.   But your experience could =
differ.=20
>=20
> On Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at 2:44=E2=80=AFPM Jonathan Einhorn =
> Or just replace it with a rack and pinion steering column from an MG
>=20
> Jon
>=20
> Jonathan J. Einhorn, Esq.
> Attorney & Counselor at Law
> 129 Whitney Avenue
> New Haven, CT. 06510
> tel: 203-777-3777
> fax: 203-782-1721
> cell: 203-623-7373
>=20
>=20
> On Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at 4:22=E2=80=AFPM Robert Markovich via Healeys =
> AH Spares and I believe Denis Welch offer an upgraded box that is =
promised to be nearly as precise as rack and pinion, with a choice of =
ratios. Also available is a jointed =E2=80=9Csafety shaft=E2=80=9D which =
seems nice provided the horn still works from the steering wheel center =
(a toggle switch a la Sprite on the dash would have to do for the turn =
signals with a jointed shaft).=20
>=20
>=20
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>=20
> On Saturday, June 7, 2025, 2:31 PM, Bob Spidell via Healeys =
>=20
> re: "... the Healey steering box is more closely related to a gravel =
truck than a sports car"
>=20
> Yep; it's 'worm-and-peg,' not even high-tech recirculating ball. =
Rebuild is doable by a decent shadetree mechanic; hard part is getting =
the whole shaft in and out--a little easier on the 4-cyls--and rocker =
shaft bush has to be correctly installed and reamed.=20
>=20
> bs
>=20
> On 6/7/2025 8:13 AM, Harold Manifold wrote:
>=20
> Dave,
>=20
> Not sure where you are located but if you can find a shop that repairs =
highway truck steering boxes they can repair/rebuild the Healey steering =
box. It won't come as a surprise to many of us but the Healey steering =
box is more closely related to a gravel truck than a sports car.
>=20
> Harold
>=20
>=20
> On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 5:28=E2=80=AFPM Richard Kahn via Healeys =
> I got mine from British Car Specialist. I don=E2=80=99t remember the =
price. I like it. But I got the original rebuilt for a few bucks. Now it =
sits on a shelf awaiting the reduction one to fail. The wiring was a =
little tricky but with the help of a friend it is perfect.
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
> > On Jun 6, 2025, at 4:31=E2=80=AFPM, David Masucci via Healeys =
> >=20
> > =EF=BB=BFHi Listers,
> >=20
> > The other day I was looking into the modern gear reduction starter =
for the Healey. On the Moss website the total included $319.89 for the =
starter, $24.99 for shipping, and $20.00 for tax. The moss total to my =
door $364.98.
> >=20
> > I happen to take a look on Amazon for something relating to the =
Healey, and lo and behold, there was the same starter (same image even). =
The starter was listed at $241.06, free shipping, and $15.07 for tax. =
The Amazon total to my door $256.16.
> >=20
> > Your call, but if you=E2=80=99re looking for one of these for your =
big Healey, that=E2=80=99s a savings of $108.85.
> >=20
> > Just an FYI.
> >=20
> > BTW, I was looking to see if I could get a better price for a =
rebuilt steering box. No luck on that one.
> >=20
> > Dave
> >=20
> > 64 BJ8
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Yep=E2=80=A6I=E2=80=99m happy with a Healey being the best =
based on it=E2=80=99s original design=E2=80=A6with minor tweaks of =
course. But Jon that rack and pinion upgrade sounds pretty cool =
though.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jun =
9, 2025, at 1:00 PM, Robert Markovich via Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><!--[if gte mso =
9]><xml><o:OfficeDocumentSettings><o:AllowPNG/><o:PixelsPerInch>96</o:Pixe=
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Maybe the improved conventional setup is kind of a good idea =E2=80=A6<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"yahoo-signature"><a=
 style=3D"font-size:12px" =
href=3D"https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id64610=
0661" class=3D"">Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS</a><br =
class=3D""></div><br class=3D""><p class=3D"yahoo-quoted-begin" =
style=3D"font-size: 15px; color: rgb(132, 115, 255); padding-top: 15px; =
margin-top: 0px;">On Monday, June 9, 2025, 12:56 PM, Richard Mayor =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">boyracer466@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote =
class=3D"iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv5307662334" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">Yes, just bolt in an MGB rack and pinion. =
Anywhere will do. No need to worry about that thing called "bump =
steer".&nbsp; Oh, and that rack will have to go in the space where the =
radiator is currently located.&nbsp; No worries. Just have a custom =
radiator built that will fit in the new forward - angled space - that =
needs to go forward of the MG rack.&nbsp; But first, fab up those braces =
that must be welded to the chassis legs to support that new custom =
radiator.&nbsp; Last but not&nbsp;least. Reconfigure&nbsp;those steering =
arms for the new steering geometry to&nbsp;eliminate bump steer.&nbsp; =
Oh wait, Then there are the universal&nbsp;joints and double D steering =
shaft and that upper part of the&nbsp;column that needs to be cut, =
modified, supported, braced and massaged to locate the stock steering =
wheel.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Here's a photo of my work in progress for mounting an MGB =
rack.&nbsp; It has taken me many, many, hours so far.&nbsp; &nbsp;But =
your experience could&nbsp;differ.&nbsp;</div></div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"yiv5307662334gmail_quote =
yiv5307662334gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"yiv5307662334gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at 2:44=E2=80=AFPM =
Jonathan Einhorn &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">einhornlawoffice@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" =
class=3D"yiv5307662334gmail_quote"><div class=3D"">Or just replace it =
with a rack and pinion steering column from an MG</div><div class=3D""><br=
 class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Jon<br clear=3D"all" class=3D""><br =
clear=3D"all" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"yiv5307662334gmail_signature">Jonathan J. Einhorn, Esq.<br =
class=3D"">Attorney &amp; Counselor at Law<br class=3D"">129 Whitney =
Avenue<br class=3D"">New Haven, CT. 06510<br class=3D"">tel: =
203-777-3777<br class=3D""><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">einhornlawoffice@gmail.com</a><br class=3D"">fax: =
203-782-1721<br class=3D"">cell: 203-623-7373</div></div></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"yiv5307662334gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"yiv5307662334gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at 4:22=E2=80=AFPM =
Robert Markovich via Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" =
class=3D"yiv5307662334gmail_quote"><div class=3D"">
AH Spares and I believe Denis Welch offer an upgraded box that is =
promised to be nearly as precise as rack and pinion, with a choice of =
ratios. Also available is a&nbsp;jointed =E2=80=9Csafety shaft=E2=80=9D =
which seems nice provided the horn still works from the steering wheel =
center (a toggle switch a la Sprite on the dash would have to do for the =
turn signals with a jointed shaft).&nbsp;<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br=
 class=3D""><div class=3D""><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" =
style=3D"font-size:12px;" target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id64610=
0661" class=3D"">Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS</a><br =
class=3D""></div><br class=3D""><p style=3D"font-size: 15px; color: =
rgb(123, 106, 246); padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0px;" class=3D"">On =
Saturday, June 7, 2025, 2:31 PM, Bob Spidell via Healeys &lt;<a =
rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote =
class=3D""><div =
id=3D"yiv5307662334m_-9166251152289089202m_-2999273504852393431yiv38419767=
41" class=3D""><div class=3D"">
    re: "... the Healey steering box is more closely related&nbsp;to a =
gravel
    truck than a sports car"<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
    <br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
    Yep; it's 'worm-and-peg,' not even high-tech recirculating ball.
    Rebuild is doable by a decent shadetree mechanic; hard part is
    getting the whole shaft in and out--a little easier on the
    4-cyls--and rocker shaft bush has to be correctly installed and
    reamed. <br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
    <br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
    bs<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
    <br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
    <div =
id=3D"yiv5307662334m_-9166251152289089202m_-2999273504852393431yiv38419767=
41yqtfd41075" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 6/7/2025 8:13 AM, Harold =
Manifold
      wrote:<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
      </blockquote></div></div><div =
id=3D"yiv5307662334m_-9166251152289089202m_-2999273504852393431yiv38419767=
41yqtfd11059" class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div =
id=3D"yiv5307662334m_-9166251152289089202m_-2999273504852393431yiv38419767=
41yqtfd22639" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Dave,
        <div class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
        </div>
        <div class=3D"">Not sure where you are located but if you can =
find a shop
          that repairs highway truck steering boxes they can
          repair/rebuild the Healey steering box. It won't come as a
          surprise to many of us but the Healey steering box is more
          closely related&nbsp;to a gravel truck than a sports =
car.</div>
        <div class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
        </div>
        <div class=3D"">Harold</div>
        <div class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
        </div>
      </div>
      <br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
      <div class=3D"">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 5:28=E2=80=AFPM=

          Richard Kahn via Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener =
noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
        </div>
        <blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px =
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"">I
          got mine from British Car Specialist. I don=E2=80=99t remember =
the
          price. I like it. But I got the original rebuilt for a few
          bucks. Now it sits on a shelf awaiting the reduction one to
          fail. The wiring was a little tricky but with the help of a
          friend it is perfect.<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
          Sent from my iPhone<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
          <br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
          &gt; On Jun 6, 2025, at 4:31=E2=80=AFPM, David Masucci via =
Healeys
          &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
          &gt; <br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
          &gt; =EF=BB=BFHi Listers,<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
          &gt; <br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
          &gt; The other day I was looking into the modern gear
          reduction starter for the Healey. On the Moss website the
          total included $319.89 for the starter, $24.99 for shipping,
          and $20.00 for tax. The moss total to my door $364.98.<br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
          &gt; <br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
          &gt; I happen to take a look on Amazon for something relating
          to the Healey, and lo and behold, there was the same starter
          (same image even). The starter was listed at $241.06, free
          shipping, and $15.07 for tax. The Amazon total to my door
          $256.16.<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
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