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Re: [Healeys] Healey gear reduction starter

To: Richard Mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>, Jonathan Einhorn <einhornlawoffice@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey gear reduction starter
From: Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2025 17:00:37 +0000 (UTC)
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Maybe the improved conventional setup is kind of a good idea =E2=80=A6


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On Monday, June 9, 2025, 12:56 PM, Richard Mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com> wr=
ote:

Yes, just bolt in an MGB rack and pinion. Anywhere will do. No need to worr=
y about that thing called "bump steer".=C2=A0 Oh, and that rack will have t=
o go in the space where the radiator is currently located.=C2=A0 No worries=
. Just have a custom radiator built that will fit in the new forward - angl=
ed space - that needs to go forward of the MG rack.=C2=A0 But first, fab up=
 those braces that must be welded to the chassis legs to support that new c=
ustom radiator.=C2=A0 Last but not=C2=A0least. Reconfigure=C2=A0those steer=
ing arms for the new steering geometry to=C2=A0eliminate bump steer.=C2=A0 =
Oh wait, Then there are the universal=C2=A0joints and double D steering sha=
ft and that upper part of the=C2=A0column that needs to be cut, modified, s=
upported, braced and massaged to locate the stock steering wheel.=C2=A0
Here's a photo of my work in progress for mounting an MGB rack.=C2=A0 It ha=
s taken me many, many, hours so far.=C2=A0 =C2=A0But your experience could=
=C2=A0differ.=C2=A0
On Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at 2:44=E2=80=AFPM Jonathan Einhorn <einhornlawoffice@g=
mail.com> wrote:

Or just replace it with a rack and pinion steering column from an MG
Jon

Jonathan J. Einhorn, Esq.
Attorney & Counselor at Law
129 Whitney Avenue
New Haven, CT. 06510
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einhornlawoffice@gmail.com
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cell: 203-623-7373

On Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at 4:22=E2=80=AFPM Robert Markovich via Healeys <healey=
s@autox.team.net> wrote:

AH Spares and I believe Denis Welch offer an upgraded box that is promised =
to be nearly as precise as rack and pinion, with a choice of ratios. Also a=
vailable is a=C2=A0jointed =E2=80=9Csafety shaft=E2=80=9D which seems nice =
provided the horn still works from the steering wheel center (a toggle swit=
ch a la Sprite on the dash would have to do for the turn signals with a joi=
nted shaft).=C2=A0


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On Saturday, June 7, 2025, 2:31 PM, Bob Spidell via Healeys <healeys@autox.=
team.net> wrote:

 re: "... the Healey steering box is more closely related=C2=A0to a gravel =
truck than a sports car"
=20
 Yep; it's 'worm-and-peg,' not even high-tech recirculating ball. Rebuild i=
s doable by a decent shadetree mechanic; hard part is getting the whole sha=
ft in and out--a little easier on the 4-cyls--and rocker shaft bush has to =
be correctly installed and reamed.=20
=20
 bs
=20
 On 6/7/2025 8:13 AM, Harold Manifold wrote:
 =20
=20
Dave,=20
  Not sure where you are located but if you can find a shop that repairs hi=
ghway truck steering boxes they can repair/rebuild the Healey steering box.=
 It won't come as a surprise to many of us but the Healey steering box is m=
ore closely related=C2=A0to a gravel truck than a sports car.=20
  Harold=20
  =20
  On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 5:28=E2=80=AFPM Richard Kahn via Healeys <healeys@=
autox.team.net> wrote:
 =20
I got mine from British Car Specialist. I don=E2=80=99t remember the price.=
 I like it. But I got the original rebuilt for a few bucks. Now it sits on =
a shelf awaiting the reduction one to fail. The wiring was a little tricky =
but with the help of a friend it is perfect.
 Sent from my iPhone
=20
 > On Jun 6, 2025, at 4:31=E2=80=AFPM, David Masucci via Healeys <healeys@a=
utox.team.net> wrote:
 >=20
 > =EF=BB=BFHi Listers,
 >=20
 > The other day I was looking into the modern gear reduction starter for t=
he Healey. On the Moss website the total included $319.89 for the starter, =
$24.99 for shipping, and $20.00 for tax. The moss total to my door $364.98.
 >=20
 > I happen to take a look on Amazon for something relating to the Healey, =
and lo and behold, there was the same starter (same image even). The starte=
r was listed at $241.06, free shipping, and $15.07 for tax. The Amazon tota=
l to my door $256.16.
 >=20
 > Your call, but if you=E2=80=99re looking for one of these for your big H=
ealey, that=E2=80=99s a savings of $108.85.
 >=20
 > Just an FYI.
 >=20
 > BTW, I was looking to see if I could get a better price for a rebuilt st=
eering box. No luck on that one.
 >=20
 > Dave
 >=20
 > 64 BJ8
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Maybe the improved conventional setup is kind of a good idea =E2=80=A6<br><=
br><br><div class=3D"yahoo-signature"><a style=3D"font-size:12px" href=3D"h=
ttps://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661">Sent=
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-begin" style=3D"font-size: 15px; color: rgb(132, 115, 255); padding-top: 1=
5px; margin-top: 0px;">On Monday, June 9, 2025, 12:56 PM, Richard Mayor &lt=
;boyracer466@gmail.com&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div id=
=3D"yiv5307662334"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Yes, just bolt in an MGB rack and =
pinion. Anywhere will do. No need to worry about that thing called "bump st=
eer".&nbsp; Oh, and that rack will have to go in the space where the radiat=
or is currently located.&nbsp; No worries. Just have a custom radiator buil=
t that will fit in the new forward - angled space - that needs to go forwar=
d of the MG rack.&nbsp; But first, fab up those braces that must be welded =
to the chassis legs to support that new custom radiator.&nbsp; Last but not=
&nbsp;least. Reconfigure&nbsp;those steering arms for the new steering geom=
etry to&nbsp;eliminate bump steer.&nbsp; Oh wait, Then there are the univer=
sal&nbsp;joints and double D steering shaft and that upper part of the&nbsp=
;column that needs to be cut, modified, supported, braced and massaged to l=
ocate the stock steering wheel.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Here's a pho=
to of my work in progress for mounting an MGB rack.&nbsp; It has taken me m=
any, many, hours so far.&nbsp; &nbsp;But your experience could&nbsp;differ.=
&nbsp;</div></div><br><div class=3D"yiv5307662334gmail_quote yiv5307662334g=
mail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv5307662334gmail_attr">On=
 Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at 2:44=E2=80=AFPM Jonathan Einhorn &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollo=
w noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com";>einhornlawoffice@gma=
il.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv530=
7662334gmail_quote"><div>Or just replace it with a rack and pinion steering=
 column from an MG</div><div><br></div><div>Jon<br clear=3D"all"><br clear=
=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv5307662334gmail_signature">Jonat=
han J. Einhorn, Esq.<br>Attorney &amp; Counselor at Law<br>129 Whitney Aven=
ue<br>New Haven, CT. 06510<br>tel: 203-777-3777<br><a rel=3D"nofollow noope=
ner noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com"; target=3D"_bl=
ank" href=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com";>einhornlawoffice@gmail.com<=
/a><br>fax: 203-782-1721<br>cell: 203-623-7373</div></div></div><div><br></=
div><div><br><div class=3D"yiv5307662334gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"yiv5307662334gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at 4:22=E2=80=AFPM Robert =
Markovich via Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote=
 style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);p=
adding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv5307662334gmail_quote"><div>
AH Spares and I believe Denis Welch offer an upgraded box that is promised =
to be nearly as precise as rack and pinion, with a choice of ratios. Also a=
vailable is a&nbsp;jointed =E2=80=9Csafety shaft=E2=80=9D which seems nice =
provided the horn still works from the steering wheel center (a toggle swit=
ch a la Sprite on the dash would have to do for the turn signals with a joi=
nted shaft).&nbsp;<br><br><br><div><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" =
style=3D"font-size:12px;" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://apps.apple.com/=
us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661">Sent from the all new AOL =
app for iOS</a><br></div><br><p style=3D"font-size: 15px; color: rgb(123, 1=
06, 246); padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0px;">On Saturday, June 7, 2025, 2=
:31 PM, Bob Spidell via Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer"=
 ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto=
:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p><blockquo=
te><div id=3D"yiv5307662334m_-9166251152289089202m_-2999273504852393431yiv3=
841976741"><div>
    re: "... the Healey steering box is more closely related&nbsp;to a grav=
el
    truck than a sports car"<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    Yep; it's 'worm-and-peg,' not even high-tech recirculating ball.
    Rebuild is doable by a decent shadetree mechanic; hard part is
    getting the whole shaft in and out--a little easier on the
    4-cyls--and rocker shaft bush has to be correctly installed and
    reamed. <br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    bs<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <div id=3D"yiv5307662334m_-9166251152289089202m_-2999273504852393431yiv=
3841976741yqtfd41075"><div>On 6/7/2025 8:13 AM, Harold Manifold
      wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      </blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"yiv5307662334m_-91662511522890892=
02m_-2999273504852393431yiv3841976741yqtfd11059"></div><div><div id=3D"yiv5=
307662334m_-9166251152289089202m_-2999273504852393431yiv3841976741yqtfd2263=
9"><div dir=3D"ltr">Dave,
        <div><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div>Not sure where you are located but if you can find a shop
          that repairs highway truck steering boxes they can
          repair/rebuild the Healey steering box. It won't come as a
          surprise to many of us but the Healey steering box is more
          closely related&nbsp;to a gravel truck than a sports car.</div>
        <div><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div>Harold</div>
        <div><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
      </div>
      <br clear=3D"none">
      <div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 5:28=E2=80=AFPM
          Richard Kahn via Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferr=
er" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bla=
nk" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid=
 rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">I
          got mine from British Car Specialist. I don=E2=80=99t remember th=
e
          price. I like it. But I got the original rebuilt for a few
          bucks. Now it sits on a shelf awaiting the reduction one to
          fail. The wiring was a little tricky but with the help of a
          friend it is perfect.<br clear=3D"none">
          Sent from my iPhone<br clear=3D"none">
          <br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; On Jun 6, 2025, at 4:31=E2=80=AFPM, David Masucci via Healey=
s
          &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailt=
o=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healey=
s@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; <br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; =EF=BB=BFHi Listers,<br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; <br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; The other day I was looking into the modern gear
          reduction starter for the Healey. On the Moss website the
          total included $319.89 for the starter, $24.99 for shipping,
          and $20.00 for tax. The moss total to my door $364.98.<br clear=
=3D"none">
          &gt; <br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; I happen to take a look on Amazon for something relating
          to the Healey, and lo and behold, there was the same starter
          (same image even). The starter was listed at $241.06, free
          shipping, and $15.07 for tax. The Amazon total to my door
          $256.16.<br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; <br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; Your call, but if you=E2=80=99re looking for one of these fo=
r
          your big Healey, that=E2=80=99s a savings of $108.85.<br clear=3D=
"none">
          &gt; <br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; Just an FYI.<br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; <br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; BTW, I was looking to see if I could get a better price
          for a rebuilt steering box. No luck on that one.<br clear=3D"none=
">
          &gt; <br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; Dave<br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; <br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; 64 BJ8<br clear=3D"none">
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