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Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

To: "josef-eckert@t-online.de" <josef-eckert@t-online.de>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 11:42:37 -0500
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Joseph--

You said:  "I usually try to understand why others do such things my mind
cannot follow."

That's a different problem as what makes sense to one of us may not make
sense to another.

In my case I replaced my BN1's original three-speed transmission with a
Smitty's five-speed conversion and W58 transmission because:

1.  I had driven to California--about 3,000 miles from my home in
Maryland--when the second gear cluster broke and
2.  I wanted to complete the trip driving the car rather than having it
shipped home, still broken, and
2.  I was about 100 miles from Smitty's shop in Thousand Oaks CA and he had
both a rebuilt W58 and a conversion kit on hand, and
4.  Even assuming I could have found a replacement cluster and a facility
that could have installed it in a reasonable amount of time, etc., the
original transmission was a POS in the first place, as was the manual
clutch which I also replaced with an hydraulic clutch (later upgraded to a
BJ8 diaphragm unit)

So, my decision was easy for me to make and after a couple of days working
at Smitty's shop and an outlay of a reasonable sum of money I was able to
drive back to MD.  Beyond that I feel that what I gave up in originality I
have more than gotten back in driveability.

Best--Michael Oritt


On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 11:23=E2=80=AFAM josef-eckert@t-online.de <
josef-eckert@t-online.de> wrote:

> Michael,
>
> I do not mind and I am fully with you. I even do not mind if one puts his
> car in the dining room or fills it with water or throws it down a bridge.
> Its his/her car and everybody can do with belongings what they want as lo=
ng
> others are not hurt.or their belongings are not damaged with.
>
> But I usually try to understand why others do such things my mind cannot
> follow.
>
>
>
> Josef eckert
>
> K=C3=B6nigswinter/Germany
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>
> Datum: 2024-02-11T17:09:02+0100
>
> Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
>
> An: "josef-eckert@t-online.de" <josef-eckert@t-online.de>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Joseph--
>
> As the famous Wellerism goes *''Every one to his own taste,' said the old
> woman as she kissed the cow".*
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 10:30=E2=80=AFAM josef-eckert--- via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> What I do not understand is, why you want to convert an Austin-Healey to
>> V8, Electtric, etc? For me the decision is clear to keep an Austin-Heale=
y
>> as Austin-Healey and when I like to have a V8 as well i would buy a Jagu=
ar
>> XK8 or similar as an addition. We did this with our holiday car which is=
 a
>> Mazda MX-5 Miata. The car is absolutely great and in many ways superiour=
 to
>> the Austion-Healey, especially when it comes to the heavy traffic on
>> European roads and Safety. Meanwhile I do not go on any  motorway here i=
n
>> Germany with one of my Austin-Healeys. Its just painful.
>>
>>
>>
>> Josef Eckert
>>
>> K=C3=B6nigswinter/Germany
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>>
>> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>>
>> Datum: 2024-02-11T14:44:08+0100
>>
>> Von: "Chris Scholz via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>
>> An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I would be concerned with the lack of passion with a full electric
>> conversion.
>>
>> An aluminum V8 keeps the spirit and improves the driving experience.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Chris Scholz OD
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2024, at 9:16=E2=80=AFPM, HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com> wr=
ote:
>>
>> Now, you've gone too far, Bob.  An electric Healey? Bleah!  As you say,
>> to each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent for concour=
s,
>> modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys, Healey boats, etc.
>> Can't we all just get along? =F0=9F=98=80
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22=E2=80=AFPM Bob Spidell via Healeys <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an electric
>>> motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off an LS or
>>> Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a Healey chassis muc=
h
>>> past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do more than day trip=
s
>>> anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are, unfortunately, in the past).
>>>
>>> I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I
>>> bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens) un-mutated=
,
>>> and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my survivors will have to
>>> sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I could get 93-octane--disks al=
l
>>> around (Brembos in front), electric throttle and steering (several mode=
s),
>>> 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steed=
a
>>> suspension upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly=
;
>>> I'm not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I re=
ckon
>>> a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and
>>> straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but the
>>> Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts and a=
ll.
>>>
>>> Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with it"
>>> person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in both; tal=
ler
>>> rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with shroud in the BJ8 =
but
>>> I never have, and never will, understand why people buy a car they don'=
t
>>> actually want just to change it (owners with broken/missing engines who
>>> think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it up the wa=
y
>>> you want it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don't much care for
>>> breast implants either; just not the same.
>>>
>>> * Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet to
>>> see a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it hasn't
>>> happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes, etc. are a
>>> dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative (they do =
have
>>> garish paint jobs though).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:
>>>
>>> I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizar=
d
>>> radiator with 15=E2=80=9D spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat =
index and
>>> car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to
>>> fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything
>>> barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiat=
or
>>> fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Wo=
rks
>>> great.
>>> Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip
>>> diff and it works perfectly.  72=E2=80=9D Daytona wire wheels with 205 =
wide tires.
>>>   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was=
 up
>>> in the air by 2-3=E2=80=9D.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was =
a 1959 100-6
>>> so it wasn=E2=80=99t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value wen=
t up.
>>> I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to
>>> slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to th=
e
>>> heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey=E2=
=80=99s
>>> first choice if GM would have worked with him.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> Chris Scholz OD
>>>
>>> On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58=E2=80=AFPM, HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com>
>>> <healeyrik@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as
>>> "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making eng=
ine
>>> and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the
>>> motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other s=
tuff
>>> you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system,
>>> radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc.
>>> It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also kn=
ock
>>> off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work=
 I
>>> had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here:
>>> http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower
>>> than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference=
. LS
>>> motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now a=
nd
>>> with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50=
-75%
>>> of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication.=
 My
>>> car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton =
72
>>> spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start
>>> braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one i=
t
>>> will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS b=
ut
>>> he can speak to how much work it was.
>>>
>>> My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try
>>> a replacement Healey 6.
>>>
>>> Best of Luck,
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11=E2=80=AFPM <rfbegani@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that
>>>> suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM
>>>> mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans =
etc.
>>>> did you use?  All options are on the table.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
>>>> *To:* rfbegani@gmail.com
>>>> *Cc:* healeys@autox.team.net
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct.
>>>> Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to=
 find
>>>> a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of
>>>> choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few
>>>> years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in =
the
>>>> club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out =
there
>>>> might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they=
 have
>>>> one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in =
there!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best of luck,
>>>>
>>>> Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12=E2=80=AFAM <rfbegani@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Gentlemen:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67
>>>> Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at t=
he
>>>> oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drov=
e it
>>>> back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the =
rod
>>>> and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky th=
e
>>>> crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and mark=
ed
>>>> each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston r=
ods
>>>> and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger pl=
astic
>>>> bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the =
car
>>>> to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday,=
 he
>>>> asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would =
have
>>>> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this blac=
k
>>>> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I a=
m now
>>>> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps
>>>>    are not available and even if you could find them, they would need =
to be
>>>>    line bored on the engine.
>>>>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>>>>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>>>>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I
>>>> would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please give me your advice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob Begani
>>>>
>>>> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Josep=
h--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D""><font color=3D"#3333ff">You said:=C2=
=A0 &quot;</font><font color=3D"#0000ff">I usually try to understand why ot=
hers do such things my mind cannot follow.&quot;</font></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"color:#3333ff">That&#39;s a different problem as what makes sen=
se to one of us may not make sense to another.</div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"color:#3333ff">In my case I replaced my BN1&#39;s original three-speed =
transmission with a Smitty&#39;s five-speed=C2=A0conversion and W58 transmi=
ssion because:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><b=
r></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">1.=C2=A0 I had=
 driven to California--about 3,000 miles from my home in Maryland--when the=
 second gear cluster broke and=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"color:#3333ff">2.=C2=A0 I wanted to complete the trip driving the car =
rather than having it shipped home, still broken, and</div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">2.=C2=A0 I was about 100 miles from Sm=
itty&#39;s shop in Thousand Oaks CA and he had both a rebuilt W58 and a con=
version kit on hand, and</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#=
3333ff">4.=C2=A0 Even assuming I could have found a replacement cluster and=
 a facility that could have installed it in a reasonable=C2=A0amount of tim=
e, etc., the original transmission was a POS in the first place, as was the=
 manual clutch which I also replaced with an hydraulic clutch (later upgrad=
ed to a BJ8 diaphragm unit)</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"colo=
r:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">S=
o, my decision was easy for me to make and after a couple of days working a=
t Smitty&#39;s shop and=C2=A0an outlay of a reasonable sum of money I was a=
ble to drive back to MD.=C2=A0 Beyond that I feel that what I gave up in or=
iginality I have more than gotten back in driveability.</div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 11:23=E2=80=
=AFAM <a href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";>josef-eckert@t-online.de<=
/a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";>josef-eckert@t-online.d=
e</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
><div><p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Michael,<br>=
</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">I do not mind and =
I am fully with you. I even do not mind if one puts his car in the dining r=
oom or fills it with water or throws it down a bridge. Its his/her car and =
everybody can do with belongings what they want as long others are not hurt=
.or their belongings are not damaged with. </span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">But I usually try =
to understand why others do such things my mind cannot follow.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Josef eckert</span=
></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">K=C3=B6nigswinter/=
Germany</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild fail=
ure</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">Datum: 2024-02-11T17:09:02+0100</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">Von: &quot;Michael Oritt&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:michael.oritt@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt=
;</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">An: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.d=
e" target=3D"_blank">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:josef-eckert@t-online.de" target=3D"_blank">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>=
&gt;</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font:12px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Joseph--</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">=C2=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">As the famous W=
ellerism goes=C2=A0<em>&#39;&#39;Every one to his own taste,&#39; said the =
old woman as she kissed the cow&quot;.</em></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><em>=C2=A0</em>=
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael O=
ritt</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 10:30=E2=80=
=AFAM josef-eckert--- via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.=
net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">What I do not unde=
rstand is, why you want to convert an Austin-Healey to V8, Electtric, etc? =
For me the decision is clear to keep an Austin-Healey as Austin-Healey and =
when I like to have a V8 as well i would buy a Jaguar XK8 or similar as an =
addition. We did this with our holiday car which is a Mazda MX-5 Miata. The=
 car is absolutely great and in many ways superiour to the Austion-Healey, =
especially when it comes to the heavy traffic on European roads and Safety.=
 Meanwhile I do not go on any=C2=A0 motorway here in Germany with one of my=
 Austin-Healeys. Its just painful.<br></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Josef Eckert</span=
></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">K=C3=B6nigswinter/=
Germany</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild fail=
ure</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">Datum: 2024-02-11T14:44:08+0100</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">Von: &quot;Chris Scholz via Healeys&quot; &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.n=
et</a>&gt;</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">An: &quot;HealeyRick&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:he=
aleyrik@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>&gt;</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font:12px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">I woul=
d be concerned with the lack of passion with a full electric conversion. =
=C2=A0
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>An aluminum V8 keeps the spirit and improves the driving experience. =
=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone
<div>Chris Scholz OD</div>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote>On Feb 10, 2024, at 9:16=E2=80=AFPM, HealeyRick &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br><br></blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Now, you&#39;ve gone too far, Bob.=C2=A0 An electric Heale=
y? Bleah!=C2=A0 As you say, to each their own. There&#39;s plenty of room i=
n the Healey tent for concours, modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash=
 Healeys, Healey boats, etc. Can&#39;t we all just get along?=C2=A0=F0=9F=
=98=80
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Rick</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22=E2=80=AF=
PM Bob Spidell via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
<div>The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an electri=
c motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off an LS or Coy=
ote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn&#39;t push a Healey chassis much p=
ast that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do more than day trips any=
way (my days of 5K mile trips are, unfortunately, in the past). <br><br>I w=
anted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I bought a =
Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens) un-mutated, and without=
 the 20-50% drop in market value* (my survivors will have to sell my Healey=
s someday). 475HP--480 if I could get 93-octane--disks all around (Brembos =
in front), electric throttle and steering (several modes), 19x9/10 wheels w=
ith Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda suspension upgrade=
s (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly; I&#39;m not good eno=
ugh and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I reckon a Nasty Boy wou=
ld take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and straights it&#39;s s=
ayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it&#39;s fun, but the Austin-Healeys ar=
e simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts and all.<br><br>Disclaimer=
: I am very much an &quot;It&#39;s your car, do what you want with it&quot;=
 person. I&#39;ve made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in both; ta=
ller rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with shroud in the BJ8=
 but I never have, and never will, understand why people buy a car they don=
&#39;t actually want just to change it (owners with broken/missing engines =
who think &#39;Why not?&#39; I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it u=
p the way you want it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don&#39;t muc=
h care for breast implants either; just not the same.<br><br>* Just my obse=
rvations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I&#39;ve yet to see a Nasty Boy=
 cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen&#39;t mean it hasn&#39;t happened--=
but the muscle car &#39;restomods&#39; with SBCs, LSes, etc. are a dime-a-d=
ozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative (they do have garish =
paint jobs though).<br><br><br><br><br>
<div>On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:</div>
<blockquote>I love my LS1 swap.=C2=A0 It was a lot of work.=C2=A0 Aluminum =
dual passage Wizard radiator with 15=E2=80=9D spal fan-I can drive in a par=
ade at 110 heat index and car stays right at 195 degrees.=C2=A0 Lots of wor=
k to get the alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS=
 swap kit. =C2=A0 Everything barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch be=
tween the electric radiator fan and my water pump. =C2=A0 Had to cut the st=
eering shaft and u joint.=C2=A0 Works great. =C2=A0
<div>Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited sli=
p diff and it works perfectly. =C2=A072=E2=80=9D Daytona wire wheels with 2=
05 wide tires. =C2=A0 Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so muc=
h lighter it was up in the air by 2-3=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 It rides and handles =
so well.=C2=A0 My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasn=E2=80=99t worth as much s=
tock as a BJ8.=C2=A0 I feel my value went up. =C2=A0=C2=A0</div>
<div>I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.=C2=A0 Car is so much =
fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.=C2=A0 I would never go ba=
ck to the heavy iron block.=C2=A0 I feel this an aluminum V8 would have bee=
n Healey=E2=80=99s first choice if GM would have worked with him. =C2=A0</d=
iv>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone
<div>Chris Scholz OD</div>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote>On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58=E2=80=AFPM, HealeyRick <a href=3D"mailt=
o:healeyrik@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank"> &lt;healeyrik@gmail.com&gt;</a> w=
rote:<br><br></blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It&#39;s no=
t as simple as &quot;dropping in a V8&quot;. That&#39;s the easy part, most=
ly focusing on making engine and transmission mounts and cutting away piece=
s of the footwells so the motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.=
=C2=A0 It&#39;s all the other stuff you need to do that will really add the=
 work. New electrical system, radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, trans=
mission shifter, etc, etc. It&#39;s worth it in the end if you want a Heale=
y/Cobra, but you&#39;ll also knock off about 30 percent of your car&#39;s v=
alue or more.=C2=A0 You can see the work I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and=
 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here:=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://forum.britis=
hv8.org/read.php?13,8264" target=3D"_blank">http://forum.britishv8.org/read=
.php?13,8264</a>=C2=A0 The Ford 5.0 is narrower than the Chevy LS so less b=
ody cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS motors are more likely to =
be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and with your brother a GM mech=
anic, would be very helpful.=C2=A0 I did about 50-75% of the swap myself, e=
xcept for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I =
run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires.=C2=A0 Muc=
h more power than that and those parts will start braking.=C2=A0 A good eng=
ine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare fo=
rever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to how muc=
h work it was.
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>My first choice if you don&#39;t have that &quot;Need for Speed&quot; =
would be to try a replacement Healey 6.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Best of Luck,</div>
<div>Rick</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11=E2=80=AFP=
M &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">rfbegani@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div lang=3D"EN-US">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.=C2=A0 Chris just made th=
at suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.=C2=A0 My Bother is a retired=
 GM mechanic, and he agrees.=C2=A0 Did you do the exchange?=C2=A0 What engi=
ne trans etc. did you use?=C2=A0 All options are on the table.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">Bob</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">=C2=A0</span></p>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> HealeyRick &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:healeyrik@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>&gt; <br>=
<strong>Sent:</strong> Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM<br><strong>To:</str=
ong> <a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">rfbegani@gmail=
.com</a><br><strong>Cc:</strong> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><strong>Subject:</strong> R=
e: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sorry to hear this Bob. What you&#39;ve been told so=
 far seems correct. Without the main bearing caps you&#39;re in a tough spo=
t.=C2=A0 Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the=
 best of a bad group of choices.=C2=A0 Too bad, I gave away a bare block wi=
th caps from a BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our club charity.=C2=
=A0 I&#39;d put a wanted ad in the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebo=
ok pages and hope someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey S=
urgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that needs rebuilding somewhere. O=
r do what I did and put a V8 in there!</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Best of luck,</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Rick Neville aka &quot;HealeyRick&quot;</p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12=E2=80=AFAM &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">Gentlemen:</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-H=
ealey.=C2=A0 Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil p=
ressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back =
slowly.=C2=A0 Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod a=
nd crank caps and bearings.=C2=A0 My mechanic friend said you got lucky the=
 crank may only need polishing and new bearings.=C2=A0 So, I packed and mar=
ked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston ro=
ds and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plas=
tic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.=C2=A0 We towed =
the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.=C2=A0 =
Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he=
 would have everything in one place.=C2=A0 I looked around but could not fi=
nd this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage=
. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?<=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">=C2=A0</span></p>
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"1">
<li><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I am told t=
he engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and e=
ven if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the engine.=
</span></li>
<li><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I am told t=
hat finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is a=
lmost impossible.</span></li>
<li><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Finding an =
engine to be rebuild might be possible.</span></li>
</ol>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so =
I would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.</spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">Please give me your advice.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">Best regards,</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">Bob Begani</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">67 Austin-Healey BJ8</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
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