Re: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID

[Ricchardd Mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>]

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Are you sure it's .543?   Did you clean off the paint, and/or rust, =
before you took this measurement?  The wire sizes I listed were obtained =
after I measured many examples. =20


Richard Mayor
boyracer466@gmail.com


> On Oct 12, 2023, at 7:35 AM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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> On my BN2 they are 0.543" wire diameter.=20
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> On Thu., Oct. 12, 2023, 10:31 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, =
> What is the wire size for the 100's?
> Gary
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> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 01:30:23 PM CDT, richard mayor =
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> Wire size is the way to identify coil spring rates.
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> 100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535=E2=80=9D, 225 lbs/in,  =
free length varies 11=E2=80=9D to 12=E2=80=9D;
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> MKII coils are .590=E2=80=9D, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. =
10-1/2=E2=80=9D,
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> BJ8 coils are .610=E2=80=9D, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4=E2=80=
=9D long
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> Richard Mayor
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>> On Oct 11, 2023, at 3:17 AM, S and T Miller via Healeys =
>>=20
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> Thank you so much for taking the time to find this! Very helpful and =
much appreciated.  I had assumed the opposite when it came to spring =
length.  Thanks again.=20
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> The Millers
> =20
> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a =
test drive."
> From: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com =
<simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com =
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:17 AM
> To: 'S and T Miller' <stmiller96@hotmail.com =
> Subject: RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
> =20
> I dug this out of my records if it=E2=80=99s any use=E2=80=A6
> Simon
> QUOTE
> Simon Lachlan
> From:         Rich Locasso [LifeisRich@MacConnect.com]
> Sent:          11 September 1999 18:18
> To:             Healey List
> Subject:     Results from Coil Spring Posts
> =20
> Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning =
coil springs for the Healey.
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> Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken =
by owners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one =
owner.
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> BN1 to BN4 - 14=E2=80=9D-15=E2=80=9D  (freestanding coil length)
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> BN6        - 12=E2=80=9D
> BT7               - 11 13/16=E2=80=9D
> BJ8        - 10 1/8=E2=80=9D
> =20
> Coil thickness through BT7 was =C2=BD=E2=80=9D and for the BJ8 was =
5/8=E2=80=9D.
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> So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been =
upgraded through the years.
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> More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to =
earlier Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or =
about the same.
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> I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my =
BT7 but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring =
specified at the end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the =
beginning (BN1). I am going to buy the BJ8 spring because it will reduce =
body roll in cornering, handle a little better, and if it has a slightly =
firmer ride as one owner reported, I can easily tolerate that.
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> Thanks again,
> =20
> Rich Locasso
> Huntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE
> =20
> =20
> =20
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net =
Healeys
> Sent: 10 October 2023 13:29
> Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
> =20
> I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.  I recall =
that there were 4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have =
the measurements for the 100, but was wondering if anyone had the specs =
for the later three?=20
> TIA, Shawn=20
> =20
> The Millers
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> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a =
test drive."
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class=3D"">Are you sure it's .543? &nbsp; Did you clean off the paint, =
and/or rust, before you took this measurement? &nbsp;The wire sizes I =
listed were obtained after I measured many examples. &nbsp;<div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div apple-content-edited=3D"true" class=3D"">
Richard&nbsp;Mayor<br class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">boyracer466@gmail.com</a><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">

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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Oct 12, 2023, at 7:35 AM, Michael Salter &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">On my BN2 they are 0.543" wire diameter.&nbsp;</div><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu., Oct. 12, 2023, 10:31 a.m. warthodson--- =
via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans-serif;font-size:16px" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">What is the wire size for the =
100's?</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Gary</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div>
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id=3D"m_-796947586393838000ydp5e82e9aeyahoo_quoted_7645486002" class=3D"">=

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                <div class=3D"">
                    On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 01:30:23 PM CDT, =
richard mayor &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
class=3D"">boyracer466@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
                <div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
                <div class=3D""><div =
id=3D"m_-796947586393838000ydp5e82e9aeyiv3017768612" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">Wire size is the way to identify coil spring rates.<div =
class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">100/6s =
and early 3000s had a wire size of .535=E2=80=9D, 225 lbs/in, &nbsp;free =
length varies 11=E2=80=9D to 12=E2=80=9D;</div><div class=3D""><br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">MKII coils are .590=E2=80=9D=
, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. 10-1/2=E2=80=9D,</div><div =
class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">BJ8 coils =
are .610=E2=80=9D, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4=E2=80=9D =
long</div><div class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">Richard Mayor</div><div class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"=
 class=3D"">boyracer466@gmail.com</a></div><div class=3D""><br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D""></div><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">

</div>
<div class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div =
id=3D"m_-796947586393838000ydp5e82e9aeyiv3017768612yqtfd32437" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Oct 11, 2023, at 3:17 AM, S and T Miller =
via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
class=3D"">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div=
 id=3D"m_-796947586393838000ydp5e82e9aeyiv3017768612yqtfd83291" =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div =
id=3D"m_-796947586393838000ydp5e82e9aeyiv3017768612yqtfd71716" =
class=3D""><div =
style=3D"color:inherit;font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;font-style:no=
rmal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:=
none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;background-color:transparent" =
class=3D""></div><span =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weigh=
t:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spaci=
ng:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important" =
class=3D"">Thank you so much for taking the time to find this! Very =
helpful and much appreciated.&nbsp; I had assumed the opposite when it =
came to spring length.&nbsp; Thanks again.&nbsp;</span><div =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weigh=
t:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spaci=
ng:0px;text-decoration:none" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D""></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weigh=
t:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spaci=
ng:0px;text-decoration:none" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D""></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weigh=
t:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spaci=
ng:0px;text-decoration:none" class=3D"">The Millers<br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">"Always drive them, but =
remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive."<br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D""></div><hr =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weigh=
t:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spaci=
ng:0px;text-decoration:none;display:inline-block;width:651.688px" =
class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weigh=
t:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spaci=
ng:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important" =
class=3D""></span><div dir=3D"ltr" =
id=3D"m_-796947586393838000ydp5e82e9aeyiv3017768612divRplyFwdMsg" =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weigh=
t:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spaci=
ng:0px;text-decoration:none" class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri, =
sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">From:</b><span class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" class=3D"">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a> =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; target=3D"_blank"=
 rel=3D"noreferrer" =
class=3D"">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span class=3D"">&nbsp;</span>Wednesday,=
 October 11, 2023 4:17 AM<br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">To:</b><span class=3D"">&nbsp;</span>'S and T Miller' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:stmiller96@hotmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" class=3D"">stmiller96@hotmail.com</a>&gt;<br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span>'Healeys' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" class=3D"">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span>RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID</font><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</div></div><div lang=3D"EN-GB" =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weigh=
t:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spaci=
ng:0px;text-decoration:none" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"">I dug this out of my records if it=E2=80=99s any =
use=E2=80=A6</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"">Simon</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"">QUOTE</span></div><div style=3D"border-width:medium medium =
medium 2.25pt;border-style:none none none =
solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor =
windowtext;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 1pt;background:rgb(223,223,223)" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt =
54pt;background:rgb(223,223,223);border:medium;padding:0cm;font-size:11pt;=
font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-weight:bold" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"">Simon Lachlan</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt =
54pt;border:medium;padding:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif=
;background:white" class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b><span =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Rich Locasso =
[<a href=3D"mailto:LifeisRich@MacConnect.com"; =
class=3D"">LifeisRich@MacConnect.com</a>]</span></div><div =
style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt =
54pt;border:medium;padding:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif=
;background:white" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 11 =
September 1999 18:18</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt =
54pt;border:medium;padding:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif=
;background:white" class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; Healey List</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt =
54pt;border:medium;padding:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif=
;background:white" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Results from Coil Spring =
Posts</span></div></div><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=3D"">Thanks to =
the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning coil =
springs for the Healey.</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=3D"">Below are =
listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken by owners, =
except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one owner.</p><p =
style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" =
class=3D"">BN1 to BN4 - 14=E2=80=9D-15=E2=80=9D&nbsp; (freestanding coil =
length)</p><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" =
class=3D"">BN6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - =
12=E2=80=9D</div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" =
class=3D"">BT7&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - 11 13/16=E2=80=9D</div><div =
style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" =
class=3D"">BJ8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - 10 =
1/8=E2=80=9D</div><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=3D"">Coil =
thickness through BT7 was =C2=BD=E2=80=9D and for the BJ8 was =
5/8=E2=80=9D.</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=3D"">So the =
Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been upgraded =
through the years.</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=3D"">More =
important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to earlier =
Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or about the =
same.</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=3D"">I started =
this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my BT7 but =
logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specified at =
the end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am =
going to buy the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in =
cornering, handle a little better, and if it has a slightly firmer ride =
as one owner reported, I can easily tolerate that.</p><div =
style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt =
212.6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=3D"">Thanks =
again,</div><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</p><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt =
212.6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=3D"">Rich =
Locasso</div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt =
212.6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=3D"">Huntington=
 Beach, CA UNQUOTE</div><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt =
212.6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D""><span =
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class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></b>S and T Miller via Healeys<br clear=3D"none" =
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October 2023 13:29<br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span=
 class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
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class=3D"">Subject:</b><span class=3D"">&nbsp;</span>[Healeys] Ft. Coil =
Springs ID</span></div></div></div><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</p><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"">I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to =
identify.&nbsp; I recall that there were 4 variations from the 100 to =
the BJ8. I believe I have the measurements for the 100, but was =
wondering if anyone had the specs for the later =
three?&nbsp;</span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0cm =
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class=3D""><span class=3D"">TIA, Shawn&nbsp;</span></div></div><div =
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