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I'm 79 and still actively race. I'm glad that Josef--otherwise known as
Mr. Sensitivity--isn't on the qualifications committee.
Best--Michael Oritt
On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 8:21 PM Mike Sinclair <phoenix722@comcast.net> wrote=
:
> Maybe you better quit driving, now Josef, before you get old and decrepit=
.
>
> Mike
>
> Age 82
> On 10/6/22 12:32 PM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys wrote:
>
> Yes, please forward my comment to his family.
>
> This person hasn=C2=B4t recognizsed his limits and was a danger for other
> people on the road, drivers, bikers and cyclists, and even pedestrians,
> which are on our rural roads as well and also want to live and be not hur=
t
> by such a person.
>
> Sorry, no mercy at all from my side.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
>
> Datum: 2022-10-06T21:15:03+0200
>
> Von: "Jim Ryan" <ryan@jimryan.com> <ryan@jimryan.com>
>
> An: "josef-eckert@t-online.de" <josef-eckert@t-online.de>
> <josef-eckert@t-online.de> <josef-eckert@t-online.de>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Well, THAT was harsh. You might want to forward that to his family just
> so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you think we
> should all stop driving? Is it 75? 80? I'm 71, I just want to get your
> advice on what age I'm endangering other people.
>
> That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this lis=
t.
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years ol=
d
>> fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other
>> person was invoved and injured.
>>
>> Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees
>> or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it.
>>
>> For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure
>> ra=C4=BAlys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to =
come
>> from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elde=
rly
>> people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they =
are
>> completely overextended by driving an old classic car.
>>
>> One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more
>> capable to drive.
>>
>> I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey.
>>
>> Josef Eckert
>> konigswinter/GERMANY
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>>
>> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
>>
>> Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200
>>
>> Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
>>
>> An: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael--
>>
>>
>>
>> Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks.
>>
>> I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road,
>> somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front
>> yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared t=
he
>> branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took of=
f
>> without much conversation.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches."
>>
>> Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on
>> the Targa there.
>>
>>
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but
>> they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage
>> ditches.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if thi=
s
>> is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association memb=
ers
>> are on in Europe at this moment.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Randy Hicks
>> via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM
>> To: Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
>>
>>
>>
>> Awful.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-r=
ally-austin-healey/
>>
>>
>>
>> Randy
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I'=
;m 79 and still actively=C2=A0race.=C2=A0 I'm glad that Josef--otherwis=
e known as Mr. Sensitivity--isn't on the qualifications committee.</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu,=
Oct 6, 2022 at 8:21 PM Mike Sinclair <<a href=3D"mailto:phoenix722@comc=
ast.net">phoenix722@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
=20
=20
=20
<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<p><font face=3D"Tahoma">Maybe you better quit driving, now Josef,
before you get old and decrepit.</font></p>
<p><font face=3D"Tahoma">Mike</font></p>
<p><font face=3D"Tahoma">Age 82</font><br>
</p>
<div>On 10/6/22 12:32 PM, josef-eckert---
via Healeys wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
=20
=20
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Yes,
please forward my comment to his family. </span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">This
person hasn=C2=B4t recognizsed his limits and was a danger for
other people on the road, drivers, bikers and cyclists, and
even pedestrians, which are on our rural roads as well and
also want to live and be not hurt by such a person.<br>
</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Sorry,
no mercy at all from my side.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span=
></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist
Killed in Healey 100</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">Datum: 2022-10-06T21:15:03+0200</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">Von: "Jim Ryan" <a href=3D"mailto:r=
yan@jimryan.com" target=3D"_blank"><ryan@jimryan.com></a></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">An: <a href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.d=
e" target=3D"_blank">"josef-eckert@t-online.de"</a>
<a href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de"; target=3D"_blank"><j=
osef-eckert@t-online.de></a></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Well, THAT was harsh.=C2=A0 You might want to forw=
ard
that to his family just so they know how you feel about him.=C2=
=A0
When exactly is it you think=C2=A0 we should all stop driving?=C2=
=A0 Is
it 75?=C2=A0 80?=C2=A0 I'm 71, I just want to get your advice=
on what
age I'm endangering=C2=A0other people.
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>That was easily the most insensitive=C2=A0posting I have eve=
r
seen on this list.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:5=
2
AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div style=3D"background-color:white">To be honest, I have
no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old
fart who brought others in danger with his driving.
Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. <br>
<br>
Its very common all over in central Europe to have these
ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That
is how we love it. <br>
<br>
For big money you can book in to take part in one of
these leasure ra=C4=BAlys, where you get all accomodation
organised, only you have to come from a to b along.
these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly
people who do not know what to do otherwise with their
money, even they are completely overextended by driving
an old classic car. <br>
<br>
One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you
are no more capable to drive. <br>
<br>
I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey.</div>
<div style=3D"background-color:white">=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"background-color:white">Josef Eckert</div>
<div style=3D"background-color:white">konigswinter/GERMANY<br=
>
<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
-----Original-Nachricht----- <br>
<br>
Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in
Healey 100 <br>
<br>
Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 <br>
<br>
Von: "Michael Oritt" <<a href=3D"mailto:michae=
l.oritt@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>>
<br>
<br>
An: "Michael Salter" <<a href=3D"mailto:michae=
lsalter@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>>
<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
Michael-- <br>
<br>
=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they wer=
e filled
with rocks.=C2=A0=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went
off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed
in a tree in a fellow's front yard.=C2=A0 As I remember=
it he
stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches
out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and
took off without much conversation. <br>
<br>
=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
Best--Michael Oritt <br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via
Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote: <br>
<br>
"all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches=
."
<br>
<br>
Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor
in giving up on the Targa there. <br>
<br>
=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
M <br>
<br>
On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via
Healeys, <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; targ=
et=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote: <br>
<br>
Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful
countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads
are surrounded by open drainage ditches. <br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys
<<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bl=
ank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote: <br>
<br>
I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was
wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern
California Healey Association members are on in Europe
at this moment. <br>
<br>
=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
From: Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.t=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:=
healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
<br>
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM <br>
To: Healey List <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
<br>
Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey
100 <br>
<br>
=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
Awful.=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-exp=
at-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.=
the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-hea=
ley/</a>
<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
Randy <br>
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