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For a poor man=E2=80=99s data acquisition system, we are using the Track Ad=
dict app, available with any smartphone. =C2=A0I have mine rigged up on a K=
indle tablet of all things, and am using a 10hz external GPS receiver. =C2=
=A0(Phones usually have 1 hz which works, but not ideal.). =C2=A0I find thi=
s gives great information for short money, and the bonus is that if you hav=
e a chance to glance down, it gives you split times and green/red if you ar=
e faster or slower that split. =C2=A0Not to worry; I am not reading =E2=80=
=9CThe Last Open Road=E2=80=9D down the straights; although might give me s=
omething to do at RA. =C2=A0
=C2=A0Comparing data afterwards helps us greatly. =C2=A0(I have my Kindle m=
ounted in the Speedometer position). =C2=A0 You can also set the app to tur=
n on/off your GoPro, and it will sync up data to the video if you later com=
bine with Race Render on a PC/Mac.
Fast forward to stuff from the autocross world, there is an app called Solo=
storm which downloads video and overlays the data gathered real time, compa=
ring drivers on the spot, between runs even. =C2=A0 Awesome. =C2=A0They jus=
t released a track version; check out Petral Data systems. =C2=A0Haven=E2=
=80=99t tried the track version yet, but after years of not spending the mo=
ney on the software, I=E2=80=99m now kicking myself for not getting it soon=
er, with its instant feedback. =C2=A0TrackAddict can do almost the same, bu=
t requires more fiddling=E2=80=A6. And can compare afterwards to see what w=
as happening when, g force, top speeds, segment times, braking points and s=
trengths, etc. =C2=A0
It was super interesting to see the data comparison between the #80 and 114=
TR4=E2=80=99s with the same driver; one had an 11 mph advantage at exit of=
the last turn at Thompson, but gave up in gearing later on, and also in sp=
eed around the hairpin. =C2=A0(Quaife vs welded diff). =C2=A0Super interest=
ing!
Having the split times displayed real time with TrackAddict=C2=A0helped me =
at the Glen realize I could hold turn 1 in 4th gear, and only lose a tenth =
or two; also helped not having a shift later; top speed was the same into t=
he bus stop and at the top of the esses. =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0I was likely ov=
erslowing=C2=A0downshifting to third, but since I couldn=E2=80=99t shift, =
=C2=A0I found out how to carry speed to hold 4th=E2=80=A6. LOL. =C2=A0 (Was=
the nascar configuration). =C2=A0I used to shun data, as =E2=80=9Ctoo much=
info=E2=80=9D but now I see the wisdom, and it helped me real time with th=
e proper tools.
Hope that helps!Dave Gott
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Friday, April 7, 2023, 7:33 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wr=
ote:
Last year at the Jefferson 500 I had three great sessions with a guy runnin=
g a Porch 914 who had one of these. We had a fun debrief after each session=
, and after the feature race he pulls his Garmin Catalyst out of his car an=
d showed me what it captured (other than lots of video of my bootlid!) and =
a lot of the things they covered in the Hagerty article. It looked extremel=
y helpful, but the one thing I don't remember him mentioning was the live c=
oaching feature. I can only wonder why...=C2=A0
I really liked what I saw, but the research revealed two showstoppers, the =
unit can not get wet and the camera has a very specific spot it needs to be=
mounted. Naturally, that spot is where the rear view mirror on the windscr=
een goes, so strike two. In my case, game over.=C2=A0
So my data acquisition program remains a knock-off Go-Pro camera that I neg=
lect to turn on at least half the time!
Henry=C2=A0
On 2023-04-06 09:23, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
interesting, though I wonder how I would hear the coaching - ear buds under=
my helmet, over the noise of an unmuffled exhaust?Be cool to try it out as=
I'm sure I could use coaching!=C2=A0
On Apr 5, 2023, at 7:43 AM, David Cutter wrote:
I borrowed one for a test and tune a while back.=C2=A0 While it does all th=
e expected data collection, the really interesting function is the AI-based=
driver coaching that kicks in after 2-3 laps.=C2=A0 It seemed to work as m=
y sector times improved.=C2=A0 Is it worth $799?...well here is what Sam Sm=
ith has to say:=C2=A0https://www.hagerty.com/media/motorsports/review-garmi=
n-catalyst/=C2=A0
On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 7:54=E2=80=AFPM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot@autox.team=
.net> wrote:
Hi folks. A friend who races an MG, just asked me what I know about the Gar=
min Catalyst track recorder. I use a cell phone app (Track Addict) to colle=
ct data and find it helpful=C2=A0but have no real world experience with any=
thing else.=C2=A0The Garmin seems expensive, more like something you'd find=
in a dentist's track day Porsche but his wife wants to know if he'd like i=
t for his birthday.=C2=A0Anyone use this or a similar=C2=A0all-in-one devic=
e that I could recommend to him ?=C2=A0
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For a poor man=E2=80=99s data acquisition system, we are using the Track Ad=
dict app, available with any smartphone. I have mine rigged up on a K=
indle tablet of all things, and am using a 10hz external GPS receiver. &nbs=
p;(Phones usually have 1 hz which works, but not ideal.). I find this=
gives great information for short money, and the bonus is that if you have=
a chance to glance down, it gives you split times and green/red if you are=
faster or slower that split. Not to worry; I am not reading =E2=80=
=9CThe Last Open Road=E2=80=9D down the straights; although might give me s=
omething to do at RA. <div><br></div><div> Comparing data afterw=
ards helps us greatly. (I have my Kindle mounted in the Speedometer p=
osition). You can also set the app to turn on/off your GoPro, and it=
will sync up data to the video if you later combine with Race Render on a =
PC/Mac.<div><br></div><div>Fast forward to stuff from the autocross world, =
there is an app called Solostorm which downloads video and overlays the dat=
a gathered real time, comparing drivers on the spot, between runs even. &nb=
sp; Awesome. They just released a track version; check out Petral Dat=
a systems. Haven=E2=80=99t tried the track version yet, but after yea=
rs of not spending the money on the software, I=E2=80=99m now kicking mysel=
f for not getting it sooner, with its instant feedback. TrackAddict c=
an do almost the same, but requires more fiddling=E2=80=A6. And can compare=
afterwards to see what was happening when, g force, top speeds, segment ti=
mes, braking points and strengths, etc. </div><div><br></div><div>It =
was super interesting to see the data comparison between the #80 and 114 TR=
4=E2=80=99s with the same driver; one had an 11 mph advantage at exit of th=
e last turn at Thompson, but gave up in gearing later on, and also in speed=
around the hairpin. (Quaife vs welded diff). Super interesting=
!</div><div><br></div><div>Having the split times displayed real time with =
TrackAddict helped me at the Glen realize I could hold turn 1 in 4th g=
ear, and only lose a tenth or two; also helped not having a shift later; to=
p speed was the same into the bus stop and at the top of the esses. &=
nbsp; I was likely overslowing downshifting to third, but since =
I couldn=E2=80=99t shift, I found out how to carry speed to hold 4th=
=E2=80=A6. LOL. (Was the nascar configuration). I used to shun=
data, as =E2=80=9Ctoo much info=E2=80=9D but now I see the wisdom, and it =
helped me real time with the proper tools.</div><div><br></div><div>Hope th=
at helps!</div><div>Dave Gott<br><br><br><a href=3D"https://overview.mail.y=
ahoo.com/?.src=3DiOS">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br><br><p class=
=3D"yahoo-quoted-begin" style=3D"font-size: 15px; color: #715FFA; padding-t=
op: 15px; margin-top: 0">On Friday, April 7, 2023, 7:33 AM, yellow04 via Fo=
t <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div =
id=3D"yiv0615038629"><div>
<p>Last year at the Jefferson 500 I had three great sessions with a guy run=
ning a Porch 914 who had one of these. We had a fun debrief after each sess=
ion, and after the feature race he pulls his Garmin Catalyst out of his car=
and showed me what it captured (other than lots of video of my bootlid!) a=
nd a lot of the things they covered in the Hagerty article. It looked extre=
mely helpful, but the one thing I don't remember him mentioning was the liv=
e coaching feature. I can only wonder why... </p>
<p>I really liked what I saw, but the research revealed two showstoppers, t=
he unit can not get wet and the camera has a very specific spot it needs to=
be mounted. Naturally, that spot is where the rear view mirror on the wind=
screen goes, so strike two. In my case, game over. </p>
<p>So my data acquisition program remains a knock-off Go-Pro camera that I =
neglect to turn on at least half the time!</p>
<p>Henry </p>
<p id=3D"yiv0615038629v1reply-intro">On 2023-04-06 09:23, Scott Janzen via =
Fot wrote:</p>
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ld hear the coaching - ear buds under my helmet, over the noise of an unmuf=
fled exhaust?
<div>Be cool to try it out as I'm sure I could use coaching! <br clear=
=3D"none">
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<div>On Apr 5, 2023, at 7:43 AM, David Cutter wrote:</div>
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r clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv0615038629v1v1Apple-interchange-newline">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I borrowed one for a test and tune a while back. Whi=
le it does all the expected data collection, the really interesting functio=
n is the AI-based driver coaching that kicks in after 2-3 laps. It se=
emed to work as my sector times improved. Is it worth $799?...well he=
re is what Sam Smith has to say:
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k" href=3D"https://www.hagerty.com/media/motorsports/review-garmin-catalyst=
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at 7:54=E2=80=AFPM Mike Harmuth via Fot <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener nor=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi folks. A friend who races an MG, just asked me what I k=
now about the Garmin Catalyst track recorder. I use a cell phone app (Track=
Addict) to collect data and find it helpful but have no real world ex=
perience with anything else.
<div> </div>
<div>The Garmin seems expensive, more like something you'd find in a dentis=
t's track day Porsche but his wife wants to know if he'd like it for his bi=
rthday.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Anyone use this or a similar all-in-one device that I could recom=
mend to him ? </div>
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