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To: Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles
From: Brian Dolan via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 17:51:24 -0500
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I'm not the equipment expert...Dad is.

My recollection is that the Group 44 car ran Datsun parts mated to Triumph
stub axles.
Our consistent issue was either differentials blowing, or stub axles
shearing.
50 year old metal isn't up to the stresses of modern rubber and engine
tuning capabilities, at least not for long.

We tried doing a subaru set up on one of the cars, it wasn't
successful initially. Development is ongoing. Always seeking safety and
reliability.

Brian

On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 5:42 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
wrote:

> to answer Mike=E2=80=99s earlier question, I recall, maybe 5-6 years ago,=
 seeing
> Jim Dolan at Summit Point in the carousel in either the Group 44 GT6 or t=
he
> Kastner GT6, and one of his rear wheels going past him.  I think he had
> five laps on the Rimmer or Canley assembly and the hub sheared off.
> Fortunately a low speed part of the track.  Not sure if that was a one-of=
f,
> and he subsequently went on to run them without trouble.  Perhaps the
> Dolans can chime in as to what they run on their numerous GT6s and what
> this failure was.
>
> On Jan 19, 2023, at 2:26 PM, Bob Totten via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Amici,
>
> The question is which model GT6 you have, Mk1 and MK3 cars have swing
> axles and the GT6+ has fully articulated axles.  The axles shown in the
> pics posted are for early and late cars..   Might suggest looking at the =
CV
> conversion axles being offered by Canley Classics in England for the
> GT6+??  I myself have been running axles made by Snyder Racing & Machine,
> Michigan ( since have closed their doors ).
>
> My 2 cents,
> Bob T
> '64 Spit GT  autocrosser
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> To: Brian Schirano <bschirano1@gmail.com>
> Cc: Amici Triumphi <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thu, Jan 19, 2023 12:01 am
> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles
>
> I think what Joe has is only for swing axles.  My gt6 came to me with
> corvair hubs and gm bearings , spicer sliding half shafts and inner and
> outer u joints. It=E2=80=99s been bulletproof, but requires extensive mod=
s to the
> uprights.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 18, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> Call Joe curry at chequred flag racing. Pretty much bullet proof axels fo=
r
> spits and GT6
> Brian
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2023, 7:30 PM Michael Deweerd via Fot <fot@autox.team.net=
>
> wrote:
>
> Amici,
> Are the Rimmers Brothers CV conversion kits suitable for racing?
> OR is there a better solution?
> I've heard of Corvair and even Volkswagen and Subaru, which is best?
> Apologies for not searching the archives first.
> Cheers
> --
> *Mike Deweerd*
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;m not the equipment expert...Dad is.=C2=A0<div><br><=
div>My recollection is that the Group 44 car ran Datsun=C2=A0parts mated to=
 Triumph stub axles.=C2=A0</div><div>Our consistent issue was either differ=
entials blowing, or stub axles shearing.=C2=A0</div><div>50 year old metal =
isn&#39;t up to the stresses of modern rubber and engine tuning capabilitie=
s, at least not for long.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>We tried doing a s=
ubaru set up on one of the cars, it wasn&#39;t successful=C2=A0initially. D=
evelopment is ongoing. Always seeking safety and reliability.=C2=A0</div></=
div><div><br></div><div>Brian</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 5:42 PM Scott Ja=
nzen via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">to answer Mike=E2=80=99s earlier qu=
estion, I recall, maybe 5-6 years ago, seeing Jim Dolan at Summit Point in =
the carousel in either the Group 44 GT6 or the Kastner GT6, and one of his =
rear wheels going past him.=C2=A0 I think he had five laps on the Rimmer or=
 Canley assembly and the hub sheared off.=C2=A0 Fortunately a low speed par=
t of the track.=C2=A0 Not sure if that was a one-off, and he subsequently w=
ent on to run them without trouble.=C2=A0 Perhaps the Dolans can chime in a=
s to what they run on their numerous GT6s and what this failure was.<br><di=
v><br><div>On Jan 19, 2023, at 2:26 PM, Bob Totten via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:fot@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrot=
e:</div><br><div>
<div style=3D"color:blue;font:14pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div> <font size=3D"4">Amici,<br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"4"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"4">The question is which model GT6 you have, Mk1 and MK3=
 cars have swing axles and the GT6+ has fully articulated axles.=C2=A0 The =
axles shown in the pics posted are for early and late cars..=C2=A0=C2=A0 Mi=
ght suggest looking at the CV conversion axles being offered by Canley Clas=
sics in England for the GT6+??=C2=A0 I myself have been running axles made =
by Snyder Racing &amp; Machine, Michigan ( since have closed their doors ).=
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"4"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"4">My 2 cents,</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"4">Bob T</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"4">&#39;64 Spit GT=C2=A0 autocrosser<br>
</font></div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

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From: Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=
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To: Brian Schirano &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bschirano1@gmail.com"; target=3D"_b=
lank">bschirano1@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: Amici Triumphi &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Thu, Jan 19, 2023 12:01 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles<br>
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<div>I think what Joe has is only for swing axles.=C2=A0 My gt6 came to me =
with corvair hubs and gm bearings , spicer sliding half shafts and inner an=
d outer u joints. It=E2=80=99s been bulletproof, but requires extensive mod=
s to the uprights.
<div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div id=3D"m_-3287244964882894771yiv0549638223yqtfd14661"><br clear=3D"none=
"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 18, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Brian Schirano via=
 Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote><=
/div>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div id=3D"m_-3287244964882894771yiv0549638223yqtfd11718">=EF=BB=BF
<div>Call Joe curry at chequred flag racing. Pretty much bullet proof axels=
 for spits and GT6
<div>Brian</div>
</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jan 18, 2023, 7:30 PM Michael Deweerd via Fot &lt;=
<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fot@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=
=3D"none"></div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Amici,
<div>Are the Rimmers Brothers CV conversion kits suitable for racing?=C2=A0=
</div>

<div>OR is there a better solution?=C2=A0</div>

<div>I&#39;ve heard of Corvair and even Volkswagen and Subaru, which is bes=
t?=C2=A0</div>

<div>Apologies for not searching the archives=C2=A0first.<br clear=3D"all">
<div>Cheers</div>
-- <br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><i><font face=3D"comic sans ms, sans-serif">Mike Deweerd</=
font></i></div>
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