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Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations
From: Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 23:46:14 +0200
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Maybe to add from my chats with Kas himself.

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As far I know about the K-Cup it is not the car which cross the finish =
first is the K-Cup winner, it is the car with =E2=80=9Cout of class =
performance=E2=80=9D who wins.

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A TR8 on slicks is a disadvantage to win. Too much power, too wide =
track, too modern design.

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If I would chose a car to win the K-Cup, it would be a 1.1L Spitfire on =
TD tires :), a underpowered car, driven like stolen.

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Cheers

Chris

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Von: tr4racing@gmail.com <tr4racing@gmail.com>=20
Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juni 2022 23:22
An: 'Jason Sukey' <jsukey@gmail.com>; 'Brian Dolan' =
<bdolan1776@gmail.com>
Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' <Fot@autox.team.net>
Betreff: AW: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations

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Just a question.

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When I was part of the K-Cup in 2013 and 2019 there were cars on slicks =
in the K-Cup race.

Has the rule been changed that slicks are not allowed anymore?

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Cheers

Chris

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> Im Auftrag von Jason Sukey via Fot
Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juni 2022 19:49
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations

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The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for podiums =
during the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.

Jason

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On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =

Seems like a reasonable compromise to allow more people to race, while =
setting standards for who can podium.=20

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Am I missing something on that angle?=20

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On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =

Not good news for those of us who consistently run vintage, which =
typically requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7s =
for this event. =20

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Sent from my iPhone

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On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =

=EF=BB=BF=20

Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup =
this year (39 as of today).  But it would be great to be at 40 or more =
for the 20th Kastner Cup!=20

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I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our =
group that typically run on slick tires.  PVGP has modified the "no =
slicks" rule for Triumphs.  You can run grooved slick tires in the =
Kastner Cup.  You can also run these tires in the regular run groups, =
but you will not be eligible for any awards for podium recognition.  For =
those that don't have tire options this will certainly help. =20

=20

So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever reason, =
please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race. =20

=20

Regular entry fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.  After July 1, =
the fee goes up to $645, so act now!=20

2022 PVGP Historics at Pitt Race =
<https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-race-pi=
ttsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031>  (motorsportreg.com) =
<https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-race-pi=
ttsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031> =20

=20

Thanks.=20

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Curt Johnston=20

Kastner Cup Race Committee Chair=20


707-249-1667=20

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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Maybe to add from my chats =
with Kas himself.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>As far I =
know about the K-Cup it is not the car which cross the finish first is =
the K-Cup winner, it is the car with =E2=80=9Cout of class =
performance=E2=80=9D who wins.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>A TR8 on =
slicks is a disadvantage to win. Too much power, too wide track, too =
modern design.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If I would =
chose a car to win the K-Cup, it would be a 1.1L Spitfire on TD tires =
<span style=3D'font-family:Wingdings'>J</span>, a underpowered car, =
driven like stolen.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span =
lang=3DDE> tr4racing@gmail.com &lt;tr4racing@gmail.com&gt; =
<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 27. Juni 2022 23:22<br><b>An:</b> 'Jason =
Sukey' &lt;jsukey@gmail.com&gt;; 'Brian Dolan' =
&lt;bdolan1776@gmail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Friends of Triumph' =
&lt;Fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> AW: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire =
Regulations<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DDE>Just a question.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DDE><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>When I was part of the K-Cup in 2013 and 2019 there =
were cars on slicks in the K-Cup race.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Has the rule been changed that slicks are not allowed =
anymore?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span =
lang=3DDE> Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>=
&gt; <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Jason Sukey via Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b> =
Montag, 27. Juni 2022 19:49<br><b>An:</b> Brian Dolan &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:bdolan1776@gmail.com";>bdolan1776@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>C=
c:</b> Friends of Triumph &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:Fot@autox.team.net";>Fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Betre=
ff:</b> Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire =
Regulations<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The way =
I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for podiums during =
the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting =
it.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jason<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Seems like a reasonable compromise to =
allow more people to race, while setting standards for who can =
podium.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Am I missing something on that =
angle?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Not good news for those of us who =
consistently run vintage, which typically requires treaded tires, and =
are not going to buy a set of R7s for this event. =
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt =
Johnston via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner =
Cup this year (39 as of today).&nbsp; But it would be great to be at 40 =
or more for the 20th Kastner Cup! <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our =
group that typically run on slick tires.&nbsp; PVGP has modified the =
&quot;no slicks&quot; rule for Triumphs.&nbsp; You can run =
<strong><u><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>grooved =
slick tires</span></u></strong> in the Kastner Cup.&nbsp; You can also =
run these tires in the regular run groups, but you will not be eligible =
for any awards for podium recognition.&nbsp; For those that don't have =
tire options this will certainly help.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever =
reason, please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt =
Race.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Regular entry fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.&nbsp; =
<strong><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>After July 1, =
the fee goes up to $645, so act now!</span></strong> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><a =
href=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-=
race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031" =
target=3D"_blank">2022 PVGP Historics at Pitt =
Race</a></span></strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><a =
href=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-=
race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031" target=3D"_blank"> =
(motorsportreg.com)</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Thanks. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Curt Johnston <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Kastner Cup Race Committee Chair <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><a href=3D"mailto:curt.johnston@comcast.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">curt.johnston@comcast.net</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>707-249-1667 <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
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