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I found this out the hard way on my TR3 with Southwick conversion (Ford full
floating axles). The button was left in by the shop that put the rear end
together and the axle bearings were quickly ruined.
Dave H.
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From: "STEPHEN BOROWSKI" <biznzman@pacbell.net>
To: "John Styduhar" <johnstydo@gmail.com>, "Robert Lang"
<robertlangtr6@yahoo.com>
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 5:53:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Detroit Locker Question
Hello John,
You only need to use the button if your running a live axil (TR3 & 4s). You
must have the button installed so that you can set the axil bearing load (with
shims) when installing the axils. Both the axils will touch the button. The TR6
uses an independent rear end and thus you don't have to set axil bearing loads
together, thus no button. Each axil is independent from the other. The rest of
the differential/pumpkin is the same.
FYI, I just sent my live axil rear end to the Southwick machine shop to install
the ford type HD axils (no bearing adjustment needed anymore) and you don't
have to use the button either. You may want to thing about this. Price $1k I
can send you a picture of the button and measurements if you want.
Thxs. Steve
On Friday, August 14, 2015 7:51 AM, John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com> wrote:
I run a Detroit locker in my TR3 racer and there is no center button that you
mentioned.
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Robert Lang < robertlangtr6@yahoo.com > wrote:
Hi,
I'm setting up a 3.70 diff and I had a Detriot Locker kicking around, so I
figured I should use it as a posi. In any case, my TR6 axles seem to bottom out
in the Detroit Locker. Note: I had to split the locker (which was held together
with a couple of bolts) so that I could install the ring gear and wouldn't you
know it - there was enough spring tension in device to pop open. So, I had to
figure out how to re-assemble it. Maybe I goofed in the re-assembly.
I bought the Locker a long time ago from a guy named Pancho from the west
coast. He pulled the part from a Devin Tr3 that he had been vintage racing but
he was returning the car to street trim.
The question is: I know that Quaifes have a center "button" that you can leave
out or else the TR6 axles bottom - Does the Locker has a similar piece that
needs to be there for TR3's but not TR6?
I'd appreciate any advice!!
Right now, I'm pulling one of my Quaifes apart so I can install the 3.70 gear
on that, but I'd rather have the diffs all rady to just pop in and NOT have to
pull the carrier and pinion if I need a gear change!!
Regards,
rml
Bob Lang
339-927-4489
p.s. Getting ready for "Whiskey Hill" in Palmer, MA (VRG next weekend).
Psyched!!
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">I found this out the hard way on my TR=
3 with Southwick conversion (Ford full floating axles). The button was left=
in by the shop that put the rear end together and the axle bearings were q=
uickly ruined. </div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div=
><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Dave H.</div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=
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ont-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"STE=
PHEN BOROWSKI" <biznzman@pacbell.net><br><b>To: </b>"John Styduhar" &=
lt;johnstydo@gmail.com>, "Robert Lang" <robertlangtr6@yahoo.com><b=
r><b>Cc: </b>fot@autox.team.net<br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, August 14, 2015 5:5=
3:30 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fot] Detroit Locker Question<br><div><br></=
div><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaN=
eue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:=
12px" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000; background-color: #fff; font-family: H=
elveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12px;"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1439555636368_8795"><span id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1439555636368_8794">Hello John,</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_1_1439555636368_4109" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1439555636368=
_4108">You only need to use the button if your running a live axil (TR3 &am=
p; 4s). You must have the button installed so that you can set the axil bea=
ring load (with shims) when installing the axils. Both the axils will touch=
the button. The TR6 uses an independent rear end and thus you don't h=
ave to set axil bearing loads together, thus no button. Each axil is indepe=
ndent from the other. The rest of the differential/pumpkin is the same.</sp=
an></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span></span> </div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1439555636368_7566" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1439555636368_7565=
">FYI, I just sent my live axil rear end to the Southwick machine shop=
to install the ford type HD axils (no bearing adjustment needed anymore) a=
nd you don't have to use the button either. You may want to thing about thi=
s. Price $1k I can send you a picture of the button and measurements if you=
want.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span></span> </div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><span>Thxs. Steve</span></div><br><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><div>=
<br></div></div><div class=3D"yahoo_quoted" style=3D"display: block;" data-=
mce-style=3D"display: block;"><div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Hel=
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: Arial; font-size: small;" style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;"=
> On Friday, August 14, 2015 7:51 AM, John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com=
> wrote:<br> </span></div><br><div><br></div><div class=3D"y_msg_contain=
er"><div id=3D"yiv9798801347"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"yiv9798801347g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-size: small;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: smal=
l;">I run a Detroit locker in my TR3 racer and there is no center button th=
at you mentioned. </div></div><div class=3D"yiv9798801347gmail_extra">=
<br><div class=3D"yiv9798801347gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 6:24 PM,=
Robert Lang <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:robertlangtr6@yahoo.co=
m" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:robertlangtr6=
@yahoo.com">robertlangtr6@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"yiv9798801347gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; paddin=
g-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px;=
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elveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; =
font-size: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" data-mce-style=3D"c=
olor: #000000; font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial=
, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; background-color: #ffffff;"><=
div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I'm setting up a 3.70 diff and=
I had a Detriot Locker kicking around, so I figured I should use it as a p=
osi. In any case, my TR6 axles seem to bottom out in the Detroit Locker. No=
te: I had to split the locker (which was held together with a couple of bol=
ts) so that I could install the ring gear and wouldn't you know it - there =
was enough spring tension in device to pop open. So, I had to figure out ho=
w to re-assemble it. Maybe I goofed in the re-assembly.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I bought the Locker a long time ago fro=
m a guy named Pancho from the west coast. He pulled the part from a Devin T=
r3 that he had been vintage racing but he was returning the car to street t=
rim.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The question is: I kn=
ow that Quaifes have a center "button" that you can leave out or else the T=
R6 axles bottom - Does the Locker has a similar piece that needs to be ther=
e for TR3's but not TR6?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I=
'd appreciate any advice!!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Right now, I'm pulling one of my Quaifes apart so I can install the 3.70 g=
ear on that, but I'd rather have the diffs all rady to just pop in and NOT =
have to pull the carrier and pinion if I need a gear change!!</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">rml</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Lang</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"" rel=3D"nofoll=
ow" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"">339-927-4489</a></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">p.s. Getting ready for "Whiskey Hill" in Palmer, MA (VRG next weekend)=
. Psyched!!<br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br>_______________________=
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