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Re: Fear and Loathing in AP

To: "Scot Zediker" <roadsterboy@earthlink.net>,
Subject: Re: Fear and Loathing in AP
From: "Charles Cox" <charles@coastalbay.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 18:29:03 -0700
You can get the suspension to work. They are continually revising the
geometry and setup...can do IRS as well as a couple of different rear
setups...

Standard Roadster is 1985# dry and 2145# wet...that's without carbon fiber
components or "optimizing" the car for weight reduction (like taking off the
windshield)...(carbon fiber saves 40# in the body (70# V. 110#)...although
even the standard 110# FFR body isn't very heavy)...sounds like you'd have
to ballast the Cobra to meet the minimum weight...that's a lot less
expensive than taking weight off!

FF Roadster is .8 longer wheel base than a Miata, 1.3" wider track front and
rear...from what I see in the "rule" book is allowed 10" wide wheels (v. 7"
for the Miata) or 12" if you want to add 50# to the minimum weight
allowed...weight bias 48% front 52% rear, yes just like a mid-engine car...

So...sounds like the Miata is going to be competitive against that in AP
right?

Don't think so...not if I built and prepared both of them...

Chas


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scot Zediker" <roadsterboy@earthlink.net>
To: "ba-autox" <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Fear and Loathing in AP


> If that's what can be done with an FFR, I guess I'm not going anywhere
near
> AP.  Unless, of course I get one myself.  And figure out how to make the
> suspension work properly (as opposed to working like a Fox-body Mustang).
:)
>
> Scot (I onlyWISH my car's power/weight ratio was 3lb/hp)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Creasy" <james@thevenom.net>
> To: "Charles Cox" <charles@coastalbay.com>; "Scot Zediker"
> <roadsterboy@earthlink.net>; "ba-autox" <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 4:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Fear and Loathing in AP
>
>
> > >FFR Cobra shows the stock (dry)weight at 2,305# so I can only assume if
> you
> > >can get the Miata to 1750# you should easily be able to get the FFR
from
> > >2305 to 2000#, right?)
> >
> > 2305 is pretty heavy for an FFR with a small block, even with a full
tank
> of
> > gas. most of them weigh in between 2100 and 2200.  the later ones are a
> > little heavier but lots stiffer.  mine is going on a diet, i figure i
can
> > strip out about 125-150 lbs without compromising streetability or
> > maintenance.  thats with keeping the glass windshield.
> >
> > the lightest one i know of is 1850 lbs, sporting a 600hp motor as i
recall
> > too.  giddyup!

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