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RE: Regional and National autocrossers

To: <jake@codeworm.com>, <osp13@mybluelight.com>
Subject: RE: Regional and National autocrossers
From: <CMerritt@luminous.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:52:24 -0700
Rich however makes a potent point there.  While only maybe %10 of regional 
autocrosses have national aspirations, they are generally speaking the 
long-term dedicated autocrosses who do a heck of a lot more at each event than 
simply their work assignment.  The contribution that %10 makes to the region 
must be counted in more ways that just dollars.

-Carl
PS, while digging through the closet I found a few VHS copies of the old year 
2000 AutoX slide show, "Death Race 2000", anybody want a copy?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jake Hodges [mailto:jake@codeworm.com]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 9:53 AM
To: Richard Urschel
Cc: ba-autox@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Regional and National autocrossers


At 03:54 PM 10/14/2002 +0000, Richard Urschel wrote:
>Um, Jake, most national autocrossers not only compete
>regionally, but they are by and large the folks who
>run the regional events. Maybe you're actually describing
>casual and dedicated autocrossers?

Oh, I just wanted to point out that the greatest proportion of paying 
customers at events don't have National Aspirations, or at least don't have 
aspirations strong enough to motivate them to drive to Kansas, much less 
the time and money involved in testing, tuning, and taking the time 
off.  How many folks from our region went to nationals this year?  I'm 
pretty sure it was less than 10% of the average number of entrants at our 
events.  Maybe 35% really wanted to, but that's still not enough to pay the 
rent.

I, for example, would classify myself as a dedicated autocrosser, having 
attended all but four of our many events last season and allocating 
virtually all of my precious little discretionary funds to a set of used 
tires, a set of inexpensive KYB's, and hundreds in entry fees.  Still, I 
have no intention at this point in my life of driving to Topeka.  Between 
college and my fledgling career, I have too many other priorities I have to 
balance with the sport.  By the attendance metric, Dan, too, is a dedicated 
autocrosser, although he has even less discretionary money for tires and 
shocks.

>As for the rest of your points, I understand them,
>but what are we to do about them?

I didn't propose any changes.  I just wanted to point out a different 
viewpoint.  The (stated) goal of SCCA's Solo 2 classifications is to 
balance the results for each class at nationals.  That doesn't necessarily 
translate to a regional event where the cars and drivers aren't all 
prepared to the same level, especially in HS, the dumping ground for all 
lame cars "NOC".

As a thought experiment, I imagine if SFR decided to classify cars 
independent of SCCA's classifications, we'd come up with a very different 
picture.  Because many if not most regional drivers pick their CAR rather 
than the CLASS they want to autocross in, I bet the classes would end up, 
either directly by decision or indirectly by using the results of previous 
events, based more on local driver skill and willingness to spend money 
than car capability.  At nationals, there is a greater sample space of 
prepared cars and evenly matched drivers.  Car capability is a more logical 
choice.  I guess it comes down to how you prioritize rewarding drivers for 
excellent skill, engineers for excellent modification (or in some cases 
money sunk), or planners for excellent car selection strategy.

You can't just show up at one (or 17) event(s) in your anemic 3400lb base 
model Prelude and hope to finish in an emotionally satisfying spot in any 
class.  You can have fun driving around the course, learning, and talking 
to your friends, but trophies and bragging rights are out of your reach no 
matter how good a driver you are.  There's some cars in some classes that 
aren't winners.  In HS there's a few more now.

Actually, now that I think about it, why not reward dedicated regional 
folks that don't have competitive cars?  I think it's lame if you can run 
your heart out at 15 events and not come up something to show for it.  I'd 
be willing to organize  some simple award for dedicated autocrossers that 
don't make the trophy cut after a long season.  How about a cool pin that 
rewards consistent attendance and contribution to the club?  That would 
provide out-classed but dedicated folks a badge of honor.  Simple and 
cheap, and keeps 'em coming back!

Jake Hodges

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