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RE: SUV flame wars

To: "'Kelly, Katie'" <kkelly@spss.com>, "'Alan Gruner'"
Subject: RE: SUV flame wars
From: "Michael R. Clements" <mrclem@telocity.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 14:33:18 -0800
Hey! I brought it up only as a humorous example to illuminate the
correlation vs. causation issue that Larry brought up. Didn't mean to
get myself in trouble.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net 
> [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kelly, Katie
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 13:58
> To: Alan Gruner; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: SUV flame wars
> 
> 
> Actually, I think you covered all the bases, Alan, in one 
> e-mail. Good work!
> 
> But I think we need to follow the new thread that Mike 
> started, about women drivers on the street. Somebody say 
> something. We're all friends here. No need to be politically correct.
> 
> Katie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Gruner [mailto:algruner@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:46 PM
> To: ba-autox@autox.team.net
> Subject: SUV flame wars
> 
> 
> I hope it was clear that 99% of what I posted was pure
> bull which I hoped you all would find humorous. 
> 
> I have seen several automotive forums where the
> subject of SUV's came up and flame wars ensued. It
> normally starts with a post that says something like,
> "I hate jackasses who drive aggressively in SUV's."
> Then a chorus of "Yeah me too. Their drivers are all
> morons." Followed by "Don't they know SUV's are a
> money making tool for (pick one) big oil, the big
> three, Enron or Satan." This is then followed by "I
> drive an SUV and I'm not moron. I use it for more than 
> commuting." Then a someone will join in with, "How dare think 
> of restricting my choice in vehicles you liberal, 
> tofu/wheatgrass eating, Ralph Nadar/Joan Claybrook wanabee, 
> tree hugging, anti-american, godless communist." This is 
> answered with "Maybe we should to protect us from 
> conservative, 12-hamberger-eating, Rush Lembaugh wannabe, 
> baby-seal-killing, right-wing-conspiracy-plotting, fascist 
> tools of the establishment like you." It goes down hill from 
> there. God help you if people start quoting statistics.
> 
> Please note that this is an exagerated desription of
> events. This forum usually does not head down those
> kind of paths. I hope we don't.
> 
> Alan  
> 
> --- Larrybsp@aol.com wrote:
> > <from:larrybsp@aol.com (Larry Stark)
> > 
> >               You guys are really stretching it.
> > There is no way you can
> > judge a drivers talent from what he drives, be it
> > Corvette or SUV. When I go 
> > to the Thunderhill, Buttonwillow or Laguna Seca the
> > paddock is filled with 
> > SUV's. Now all those SUV drivers are for the most
> > part driving the race cars 
> > they towed with them to the track.
> > I can assure you the level of driving talent of
> > these drivers exceeds the 
> > "I'm better than 80%" level. If you can manage to
> > fly around Laguna Seca at a 
> > COMPETITIVE speed you've passed the test. Toughest
> > track around but the most 
> > fun. FWIW
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