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RE: RE: RE: PCV on a Good's Triple intake?'s

To: "'Timothy Holbrook'" <tjh173@yahoo.com>, <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: RE: RE: PCV on a Good's Triple intake?'s
From: "R. Ashford Little II" <ralittle2@mindspring.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:35:57 -0500
I would like to hear a little more feedback on this whole carbon
canister thing since my current setup doesn't have one.  The crankcase
is vented to one of the carbs.  What are the results of this vs. venting
to a canister in real terms, if any?

Thx,

R. Ashford Little II
www.geocities.com/ralittle2


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-6pack@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-6pack@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Timothy Holbrook
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 9:52 PM
To: 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: Fwd: RE: RE: PCV on a Good's Triple intake?'s

I didn't realize I was coming off as being irritated.  I simply didn't
want your email to scare off potential Goodparts customers.  I think he
makes a great product.

Also, I don't see any issue with running a hose from the valve cover
directly to the carbon canister.  No vacuum source is necessary to pull
the gases from the crankcase, they belch out of the valve cover on
their own.  I didn't want this muck sucked back into the engine, so I
ran the hose directly to the carbon canister.  The canister soaks up
any moisture in the crankcase gases, cleans up the air a bit, and the
excess air pressure comes out through the vent hole in the bottom of
the canister.  I think it works nicely (the EPA might disagree, but I'm
not too worried about it!).  Racers often use a similar setup, running
a hose from the crankcase to a canister of some sort (often a coffee
can full of rags!), which is sealed except for a small hole on top to
which a small air filter is affixed.  The rags (or other substance
inside the canister, perhaps charcoal) soak up the moisture and dirt
from the crankcase gases, the pressure comes out through the air filter
up top.  Crankcase is vented, no muck goes back into the engine, and
there's no mess all over the engine bay.

What's "all wrong" about my system?  If I'm messing something up, I'd
like to correct it.  

Tim Holbrook
1971 TR6


--- Jim Swarthout <jswarth1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> From: "Jim Swarthout" <jswarth1@tampabay.rr.com>
> To: <6pack@autox.team.net>
> Subject: RE: RE: PCV on a Good's Triple intake?'s
> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 18:44:35 -0500
> 
> Tim,
> 
> Calm....Calm...Take a deep breath!
> 
> I never suggested that Richard Good does not make superior products.
> I
> have no idea who Richard Good is!!! I've never met him! I'm certain
> that
> he has engineered his products to be beneficial to the TR
> enthusiast...otherwise he would not be in business!!!
> 
> That's why I suggested that the manufacturer be contacted first
> regarding any installation issues!
> 
> Don't attach the engine breather tube to the charcoal canister!!!
> 
> This is all wrong...
> 
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>  
> When fitting a Goodparts triple manifold (as I have done), you simply
> need one more T fitting and a bit of extra hose.  The
> 1969-model-year-only "PCV" valve (which is not really a PCV valve) is
> not used.  Run hose from the valve cover to the first T piece.  From
> this T piece, connect a hose to the rear carb breather fitting, and
> another hose going to another T piece.  From this T piece, run a hose
> to the middle carb breather fitting, and another hose going to
> another
> T piece.  From this final T piece, run a hose to the front carb
> breather fitting, and a hose to the carbon canister.  And you're
> done.
> 
> The "PCV" valve (which was only fitting on 1969 cars) simply applies
> a
> vacuum to the crankcase ventilation circuit, since 1969 cars did not
> connect the crankcase tubes to the carb breather fittings.  On cars
> after 1969, there is no PCV valve at all, the crankcase vent is
> simply
> connected to a breather fitting on each carb, which provides vacuum. 
> 
> However, it's a lot cleaner just to run a hose from the valve cover
> to
> the carbon canister (which is what I have done).  This keeps your
> carbs
> cleaner, and still allows the crankcase to vent.  After all, why
> would
> you want your engine breathing in all that dirty crankcase air!  
> 
> By the way Jim, Richard Good's triple manifold fits perfectly, and
> comes with everything the installer needs.  It's an excellent
> product.
> 
> Tim Holbrook
> 1971 TR6


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