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21. Re: Welding Spit body panels (score: 1): Author: Carter Shore <clshore@yahoo.com>; Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 06:17:13 -0700 (PDT); Yes a good point, but AFAIK, that was base metal fatigue, rather than joint failure. Also, look how well the rest of the airframe perfomed, even after such a massive failure of a major piece. That wa; /html/spitfires/2000-08/msg01112.html (11,375 bytes)
22. Re: Welding Spit body panels (score: 1): Author: "Tod Jones" <todjones@rica.net>; Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 10:31:44 -0400; If you get a welder to repair the sheetmetal on your Spitfire I would also reccomend a set of flanging pliers. They let you bend a flange around the repair area so the welded area is double thickness; /html/spitfires/2000-08/msg01115.html (8,918 bytes)
23. Re: Welding Spit body panels (score: 1): Author: Carter Shore <clshore@yahoo.com>; Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 07:32:42 -0700 (PDT); Hmm, good points, but but the bottom line is strength and ease of application vs welding. Airframes have thin aluminum skin, but there are many other components that are substantial. The stringers, r; /html/spitfires/2000-08/msg01116.html (14,447 bytes)
24. Re: Welding Spit body panels (score: 1): Author: Trevor Boicey <tboicey@brit.ca>; Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 15:19:55 -0400; ...and to which I reply that *NOTHING* is easier, faster, and cheaper than welding. I can't imagine drilling all kinds of holes, fuddling with rivets and so on, and I even have an air powered rivet g; /html/spitfires/2000-08/msg01120.html (9,568 bytes)
25. Re: Welding Spit body panels (score: 1): Author: Carter Shore <clshore@yahoo.com>; Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 13:48:50 -0700 (PDT); Given the skill and equipment, welding is the way to It's not fear, rather respect for the skill and training that good welding requires. Carter __________________________________________________ Yah; /html/spitfires/2000-08/msg01125.html (10,368 bytes)
26. Re: Welding Spit body panels (score: 1): Author: Trevor Boicey <tboicey@brit.ca>; Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 17:45:10 -0400; Good welding? I thought we were talking about MIG welding! (sarcasm) -- Trevor Boicey, P. Eng. Ottawa, Canada, tboicey@brit.ca ICQ #17432933 http://www.brit.ca/~tboicey/ "Bob, don't screen your maker; /html/spitfires/2000-08/msg01127.html (8,909 bytes)
27. Re: Welding Spit body panels (score: 1): Author: SpitfiresRule@aol.com; Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 18:13:50 EDT; As I recall, the cause of the airframe fatigue was the constant pressurization and depressurization that a typical Hawaiian Airliner was being put through (short flights between islands) Mitch D. Joh; /html/spitfires/2000-08/msg01128.html (8,777 bytes)
28. Re: Welding Spit body panels (score: 1): Author: Nolan Penney <npenney@erols.com>; Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 20:24:58 -0400; Then you haven't been talking to professionals. ANY professional welder would laugh at this statement. I certainly am.; /html/spitfires/2000-08/msg01134.html (9,030 bytes)
29. Re: Welding Spit body panels (score: 1): Author: "R.D. Waid" <msp01091@isd.net>; Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:34:14 -0500; I thought I might weigh in on this subject (epoxy vs welding), as I have formulated structural epoxy adhesives for 3M (aerospace and automotive) for 13 years or so. The main reason that structural b; /html/spitfires/2000-08/msg01136.html (10,553 bytes)
30. Re: Welding Spit body panels (score: 1): Author: Trevor Boicey <tboicey@brit.ca>; Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 22:51:55 -0400; Well, there's a 20 pound bag of attitude without a 2 cent satchel of fact. So you are saying if you were reading Hemmings and saw an ad that said "Spitfire, total restoration, not using welding but g; /html/spitfires/2000-08/msg01137.html (8,960 bytes)
31. Re: Welding Spit body panels (score: 1): Author: PorscheRcr@aol.com; Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 22:56:14 EDT; gentlemen.... my first day on the list and already a flame war?; /html/spitfires/2000-08/msg01138.html (8,055 bytes)
32. Re: Welding Spit body panels (score: 1): Author: Joe Curry <spitlist@gte.net>; Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 20:11:38 -0700; You ain't seen nothing yet! This one is tame by comparison!!!! :) Joe Curry; /html/spitfires/2000-08/msg01139.html (8,062 bytes)
33. Re: Welding Spit body panels (score: 1): Author: Carter Shore <clshore@yahoo.com>; Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 07:20:58 -0700 (PDT); There you have it folks, take your choice, but welding seems the winner! I will still consider adhesive/rivets as a footwell floorpan solution, but not for any serious load bearing usage. BTW, since; /html/spitfires/2000-08/msg01146.html (11,613 bytes)
34. Re: Welding Spit body panels (score: 1): Author: "Nolan Penney" <npenney@mde.state.md.us>; Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:33:46 -0400; I am glad to know my attitude is so valuable to you. Please remit the $20 The facts were given to you before, you chose to ignore them (couldn't understand them?). I thought I'd try sending you to ot; /html/spitfires/2000-08/msg01179.html (8,963 bytes)
35. Re: Welding Spit body panels (score: 1): Author: Trevor Boicey <tboicey@brit.ca>; Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:20:18 -0400; I realize you are trying to play the "book learnin'" card, but that is the last resort of the logically lost. I have no fear of "book learnin'", I have an engineering degree in a box somewhere and a; /html/spitfires/2000-08/msg01202.html (10,007 bytes)
36. Re: Welding Spit body panels (score: 1): Author: "Nolan Penney" <npenney@mde.state.md.us>; Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 06:41:11 -0400; Dance how you wish.; /html/spitfires/2000-08/msg01214.html (7,501 bytes)
37. Re: Welding Spit body panels (score: 1): Author: "dayton carpenter" <djcarpen@hotmail.com>; Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:09:39 GMT; Take two rivets and chill!! _________________________________________________________________________ Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.; /html/spitfires/2000-08/msg01220.html (8,066 bytes)

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