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Hey All,
I got two antique plates in the last year. No photos were required.
I=E2=80=99ve only had to send photos for Hagerty insurance when I applied=
.
American collectors insurance did not ask for any.
Hope this helps.
Tim
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Sent: January 28, 2019 at 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: =5BWPTA=5D Dzus meeting
Hi,
That would be nice. I'm going through AAA so I'll ask there.
thanks=21
Kevin
Kevin J Dadey
On Monday, January 28, 2019, 1:27:54 PM EST, xj61975=40aol.com<xj61975=40=
aol.com>wrote:
Kevin,
Call or check in with a notary or messenger service. I think the photos m=
ay no longer be required.
Bill
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Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 1:22 pm
Subject: Re: =5BWPTA=5D Dzus meeting
Hello,
Since we are talking about Antique plates, I have a question. I'm plannin=
g to apply for Antique plates and noted the MV-11 form mentions 4 prequir=
ed photos - one from each side and front and back. Obviously.
It also states if the car is convertible, the top must be up. Ugh. I have=
a top which has been removed and requires some fittings and is likely to=
be a bit of a struggle. I don't really plan to use it. Really needs repl=
aced but I'd rather spend money on other more pressing needs. Also the pr=
evious owner replaced the exhaust with a 2-pipe, 4-tipped Monza. Has anyo=
ne had trouble with approval because of photos other than Bill, or a modi=
fied exhaust=3F
Thanks in advance,
Kevin
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a=40autox.team.net>wrote:
OK Kiddies -
Being in the Risk Management Business, there is NO stipulation that limit=
s driving during night hours on any of the following plates:
1) Antique
2) Historic
3) Classic
The =22official recommendation=22 is that you do not drive after dark on =
due to the lack of =22lighting technology=22.
However, it isNOT illegal to drive after dark.
Larry Ross
Lawrence Ross Agency
67 Old Clairton Rd.
Pittsburgh, PA. 15236
(412) 655-9990 - office
(412) 780-8495 - cell
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Subject:=5BExternal=5D Re: =5BWPTA=5D Dzus meeting
Bill. I agree on PENNDOT staff not knowing or adding their two cents
They scary part is our insurance companies use a =E2=80=9C loophole =E2=80=
=9C to avoid coverage
I=E2=80=99m going to try to get clarification from PENNDOT
Thx
Rich R
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OnMonday, January 28, 2019,xj61975=40aol.com<xj61975=40aol.com>wrote:
> Believe what you want, Rich.
> =20
> Penndot is so random that you are likely to get any answer on any given=
day depending on who you talk to.
> =20
> Back when photos were required, I had applications bounced because of:
> =20
> -a person sitting in the car
> -front window was down
> -license plate visible and =22was not original to the car=22
> =20
> I actually resubmitted the photos with the person in the car to see wha=
t would happen, and a week later I got my plate. Go figure.
> =20
> If you can find in writing within the vehicle code that antique plates =
are not valid after dark, please let us know what section.
> =20
> I did up a 1941 =46ord in the mid 1980's. I had a good friend who was a=
State Trooper at the time who ran it up his chain of command.=22If you w=
ant to drive legally after dark, make sure you have two taillights, turn =
signals, and sealed beam headlights=22. That was good enough for me.
> =20
> Or just go with Classic and keep going in for inspections each year.
> =20
> Thanks,
> =20
> Bill
> =20
> =20
> =20
> =20
> -----Original Message-----
> =46rom: rroenigk<rroenigk=40aol.com>
> To: xj61975<xj61975=40aol.com>
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> Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 7:45 am
> Subject: Re: =5BWPTA=5D Dzus meeting
> =20
> Bill.I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week
> =20
> The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates
> =20
> And insurance company may not insure you
> =20
> You would think they know
> =20
> =20
> Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT
> =20
> Thx
> =20
> Rich R
> =20
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> OnSunday, January 27, 2019,xj61975=40aol.com<xj61975=40aol.com>wrote:
> > Even before any recent changes, there is no restriction to drive an a=
ntique registered car in PA after dark as long as you lighting meets curr=
ent standards. This has been true for at least the last 25 years if not l=
onger. Many people do not understand this and stick with Classic plates.
> > =20
> > Bill Cooper
> > =20
> > =20
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm
> > Subject: Re: =5BWPTA=5D Dzus meeting
> > =20
> > =20
> > I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this stat=
ement =22used=22 to be there....
> > =20
> > Antiquevehicles operated exclusively between sunrise andsunsetare exe=
mpt from the normal lighting
> > requirements of thePennsylvaniaVehicle Code, but must have their orig=
inal lighting equipment.
> > =20
> > It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code,=
as I am unable to find
> > it anyplace on PennDot documents...
> > =20
> > Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing ab=
out driving after dark..
> > =20
> > USE O=46 ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES The use of =
antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by Section 1=
340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt is unlawf=
ul for any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique, classi=
c or vintage registration plates for general daily transportation. Permit=
ted use shall be limited to participation in club activities, exhibits, t=
ours, parades, occasional transportation and similar uses.=E2=80=9D Occas=
ional transportation and similar uses are defined as no more than one day=
a week. Although buses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and =
vintage registration plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passenger=
s and trucks MAY NOT haul cargo. Antique, classic and vintage registratio=
n plates are not available for motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.
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> > http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20=46act%20She=
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> > My Thoughts...
> > Happy Sunday :-)
> > =20
> > Joe
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> > > Subject for discussion
> > > =20
> > > Antique Tags
> > > =20
> > > If PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark, does your insurance =
company still cover you if you do =3F
> > > =20
> > > Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restric=
tions / guidelines
> > > =20
> > > I would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA
> > > =20
> > > Appreciate any feedback
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> > > Thx
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Hey All,<br><br>I got two antique plates in the last year. No photos were=
required. <br>I=E2=80=99ve only had to send photos for Hagerty insurance=
when I applied.<br>American collectors insurance did not ask for any. <b=
r>Hope this helps.<br><br>Tim<br><br>Sent from X=46INITY Connect App<br><=
br><br><br>------ Original Message ------<br><br>=46rom: Kevin Dadey via =
Wpta<br>To: rroenigk=40aol.com, LawrenceRoss=40allstate.com, xj61975=40ao=
l.com<br>Cc: wpta=40autox.team.net<br>Sent: January 28, 2019 at 4:54 PM<b=
r>Subject: Re: =5BWPTA=5D Dzus meeting<br><br><html><head></head><body><d=
iv class=3D=22ydp23eb02dayahoo-style-wrap=22 style=3D=22font-family:Helve=
tica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;=22><div><div>Hi,<=
/div><div>That would be nice. I'm going through AAA so I'll ask there.</d=
iv><div>thanks=21</div><div>Kevin</div><div><br></div><div class=3D=22ydp=
23eb02dasignature=22><div style=3D=22font-size:13px;=22><div><span style=3D=
=22color:rgb(51, 51, 51);line-height:17px;font-size:medium;=22><i><font f=
ace=3D=22verdana, helvetica, sans-serif=22>Kevin J Dadey</font></i></span=
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On Monday, January 28, 2019, 1:27:54 PM EST, xj61975=40=
aol.com <xj61975=40aol.com> wrote:
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<div>Call or check in with a notary or messenger service. I think the pho=
tos may no longer be required.
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<div>Bill<br clear=3D=22none=22>
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=46rom: Kevin Dadey <kevindadey=40yahoo.com><br clear=3D=22none=22>=
To: rroenigk=40aol.com <rroenigk=40aol.com>; xj61975=40aol.com <=
xj61975=40aol.com>; Ross, Lawrence <LawrenceRoss=40allstate.com>=
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Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 1:22 pm<br clear=3D=22none=22>
Subject: Re: =5BWPTA=5D Dzus meeting<br clear=3D=22none=22>
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<div>Hello,</div>
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<div>Since we are talking about Antique plates, I have a question. I'm pl=
anning to apply for Antique plates and noted the MV-11 form mentions 4 pr=
equired photos - one from each side and front and back. Obviously. <=
/div>
<div>It also states if the car is convertible, the top must be up. Ugh. I=
have a top which has been removed and requires some fittings and is like=
ly to be a bit of a struggle. I don't really plan to use it. Really needs=
replaced but I'd rather spend money on other more pressing needs. Also t=
he previous owner replaced the exhaust with a 2-pipe, 4-tipped Monza. Has=
anyone had trouble with approval because of photos other than Bill, or a=
modified exhaust=3F </div>
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<div>Thanks in advance,</div>
<div>Kevin </div>
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On Monday, January 28, 2019, 12:20:51 PM EST, Ross, L=
awrence via Wpta <wpta=40autox.team.net> wrote:
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<div>OK Kiddies -</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Being in the Risk Management Business, there is NO stipulation that =
limits driving during night hours on any of the following plates:</div>
<div> </div>
<div> 1) Antique</div>
<div> </div>
<div> 2) Historic</div>
<div> </div>
<div> 3) Classic</div>
<div> </div>
<div>The =22official recommendation=22 is that you do not drive after dar=
k on due to the lack of =22lighting technology=22.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>However, it is NOT illegal to drive after dark.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Larry Ross</div>
<div>
<div> </div>
<div><font face=3D=22Calibri=22><strong>Lawrence Ross Agency</strong></fo=
nt></div>
<div><font face=3D=22calibri=22><strong>67 Old Clairton Rd.</strong></fon=
t></div>
<div><font face=3D=22calibri=22><strong>Pittsburgh, PA. 15236</strong></f=
ont></div>
<div><font face=3D=22calibri=22><strong>(412) 655-9990 - office</strong><=
/font></div>
<div><font face=3D=22calibri=22><strong>(412) 780-8495 - cell</strong></f=
ont></div>
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2=22 face=3D=22Tahoma=22><b>=46rom:</b> Wpta =5Bwpta-bounces=40autox.team=
.net=5D on behalf of rroenigk--- via Wpta =5Bwpta=40autox.team.net=5D<br =
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 28, 2019 8:27 AM<br clear=3D=22none=22>
<b>To:</b> xj61975=40aol.com<br clear=3D=22none=22>
<b>Cc:</b> wpta=40autox.team.net<br clear=3D=22none=22>
<b>Subject:</b> =5BExternal=5D Re: =5BWPTA=5D Dzus meeting<br clear=3D=22=
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<div>Bill. I agree on PENNDOT staff not knowing or adding their two cents=
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<div>They scary part is our insurance companies use a =E2=80=9C loophole =
=E2=80=9C to avoid coverage </div>
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<div>I=E2=80=99m going to try to get clarification from PENNDOT</div>
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<div>Thx</div>
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<div>Rich R<br clear=3D=22none=22>
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replyHeader=22>On Monday, January 28, 2019, xj61975=40aol.com&n=
bsp;<xj61975=40aol.com> wrote:
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<blockquote style=3D=22PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;PADDING-LE=46T:=
9px;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 9px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;=22>
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<div><font color=3D=22black=22 size=3D=222=22 face=3D=22arial=22>Believe =
what you want, Rich. </font>
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<div>Penndot is so random that you are likely to get any answer on any gi=
ven day depending on who you talk to.</div>
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<div>Back when photos were required, I had applications bounced because o=
f:</div>
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<div>-a person sitting in the car</div>
<div>-front window was down</div>
<div>-license plate visible and =22was not original to the car=22</div>
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<div>I actually resubmitted the photos with the person in the car to see =
what would happen, and a week later I got my plate. Go figure.</div>
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<div>If you can find in writing within the vehicle code that antique plat=
es are not valid after dark, please let us know what section.</div>
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<div>I did up a 1941 =46ord in the mid 1980's. I had a good friend who wa=
s a State Trooper at the time who ran it up his chain of command. =22=
If you want to drive legally after dark, make sure you have two taillight=
s, turn signals, and sealed beam headlights=22.
That was good enough for me.</div>
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<div>Or just go with Classic and keep going in for inspections each year.=
</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
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<div><span style=3D=22=46ONT-SIZE:10pt;=22>Bill</span><br clear=3D=22none=
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<div style=3D=22=46ONT-SIZE:10pt;=46ONT-=46AMILY:arial, helvetica;COLOR:b=
lack;=22>-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D=22none=22>
=46rom: rroenigk <rroenigk=40aol.com><br clear=3D=22none=22>
To: xj61975 <xj61975=40aol.com><br clear=3D=22none=22>
Cc: jstout310 <jstout310=40gmail.com>; wpta <wpta=40autox.team.n=
et><br clear=3D=22none=22>
Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 7:45 am<br clear=3D=22none=22>
Subject: Re: =5BWPTA=5D Dzus meeting<br clear=3D=22none=22>
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<div>Bill. I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week
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<div>The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates</div>
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<div>And insurance company may not insure you </div>
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<div>You would think they know </div>
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<div>Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT</div>
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<div>Thx</div>
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<div>Rich R<br clear=3D=22none=22>
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replyHeader=22>On Sunday, January 27, 2019, xj61975=40aol.com&n=
bsp;<xj61975=40aol.com> wrote:
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<blockquote style=3D=22PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;PADDING-LE=46T:=
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<div><font color=3D=22black=22 size=3D=222=22 face=3D=22arial=22>Even bef=
ore any recent changes, there is no restriction to drive an antique regis=
tered car in PA after dark as long as you lighting meets current standard=
s. This has been true for at least the last 25 years if
not longer. Many people do not understand this and stick with Classic pl=
ates. </font>
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<div>Bill Cooper<br clear=3D=22none=22>
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<div style=3D=22=46ONT-SIZE:10pt;=46ONT-=46AMILY:arial, helvetica;COLOR:b=
lack;=22>-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D=22none=22>
=46rom: Joe Stout via Wpta <wpta=40autox.team.net><br clear=3D=22no=
ne=22>
To: rroenigk <rroenigk=40aol.com><br clear=3D=22none=22>
Cc: wpta <wpta=40autox.team.net><br clear=3D=22none=22>
Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm<br clear=3D=22none=22>
Subject: Re: =5BWPTA=5D Dzus meeting<br clear=3D=22none=22>
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<div>I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this sta=
tement =22used=22 to be there....</div>
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<div><b><span style=3D=22=46ONT-=46AMILY:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;COLOR:=
rgb(106,106,106);=22>Antique</span><span style=3D=22=46ONT-=46AMILY:Robot=
o, arial, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);=22> vehicles operated excl=
usively between sunrise and </span><span style=3D=22=46ONT-=46AMILY:=
Roboto, arial, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(106,106,106);=22>sunset</span><span s=
tyle=3D=22=46ONT-=46AMILY:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);=22=
> are
exempt from the normal lighting </span></b></div>
<div><b><span style=3D=22=46ONT-=46AMILY:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;COLOR:=
rgb(84,84,84);=22>requirements of the </span><span style=3D=22=46ONT=
-=46AMILY:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(106,106,106);=22>Pennsylvan=
ia</span><span style=3D=22=46ONT-=46AMILY:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;COLOR=
:rgb(84,84,84);=22> Vehicle
Code, but must have their original lighting equipment.</span>  =
;</b></div>
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<div>It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code=
, as I am unable to find</div>
<div>it anyplace on PennDot documents...</div>
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<div>Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing a=
bout driving after dark..</div>
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<div> <b>USE O=46 ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES =
The use of antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed b=
y Section 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CI=
t is unlawful for any person to operate a motorcycle
or vehicle with antique, classic or vintage registration plates for gene=
ral daily transportation. Permitted use shall be limited to participation=
in club activities, exhibits, tours, parades, occasional transportation =
and similar uses.=E2=80=9D Occasional transportation
and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a week. Although bu=
ses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vintage registration=
plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passengers and trucks MAY NOT=
haul cargo. Antique, classic and vintage
registration plates are not available for motorized pedalcycles or motor=
homes.</b> </div>
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<div><a shape=3D=22rect=22 href=3D=22https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2=
/url=3Fu=3Dhttp-3A=5F=5Fwww.dot.state.pa.us=5Fpublic=5Fdvspubsforms=5FBMV=
=5FBMV-2520=46act-2520Sheets=5Ffs-2Dant.pdf&d=3DDwM=46aQ&c=3DgtIj=
dLs6LnStUpy9cTOW9w&r=3DDDtSG8nRC8NiocJzcdi=5Fvtq=5FcUk1B9QaQGTWcmcVhS=
4&m=3DkuCsD5WbvySwtSbunH=46HP1OQui0=46Oen13uQ1X6HvgLs&s=3D27pG07R=
4NHsnXOv8qwsope7LJIbCP5=5FMjG5XEnCM5sc&e=3D=22 rel=3D=22nofollow=22 t=
arget=3D=22=5Fblank=22>http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV=
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<div>My Thoughts...</div>
<div>Happy Sunday :-)</div>
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<div>Joe</div>
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