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On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 2:28 PM Kevin Dadey via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Since we are talking about Antique plates, I have a question. I'm plannin=
g
> to apply for Antique plates and noted the MV-11 form mentions 4 prequired
> photos - one from each side and front and back. Obviously.
> It also states if the car is convertible, the top must be up. Ugh. I have
> a top which has been removed and requires some fittings and is likely to =
be
> a bit of a struggle. I don't really plan to use it. Really needs replaced
> but I'd rather spend money on other more pressing needs. Also the previou=
s
> owner replaced the exhaust with a 2-pipe, 4-tipped Monza. Has anyone had
> trouble with approval because of photos other than Bill, or a modified
> exhaust?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 28, 2019, 12:20:51 PM EST, Ross, Lawrence via Wpta <
> wpta@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> OK Kiddies -
>
>
>
> Being in the Risk Management Business, there is NO stipulation that limit=
s
> driving during night hours on any of the following plates:
>
>
>
> 1) Antique
>
>
>
> 2) Historic
>
>
>
> 3) Classic
>
>
>
> The "official recommendation" is that you do not drive after dark on due
> to the lack of "lighting technology".
>
>
>
> However, it is NOT illegal to drive after dark.
>
>
>
> Larry Ross
>
>
> *Lawrence Ross Agency*
> *67 Old Clairton Rd.*
> *Pittsburgh, PA. 15236*
> *(412) 655-9990 - office*
> *(412) 780-8495 - cell*
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Wpta [wpta-bounces@autox.team.net] on behalf of rroenigk--- via
> Wpta [wpta@autox.team.net]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 28, 2019 8:27 AM
> *To:* xj61975@aol.com
> *Cc:* wpta@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [External] Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting
>
> Bill. I agree on PENNDOT staff not knowing or adding their two cents
>
> They scary part is our insurance companies use a =E2=80=9C loophole =E2=
=80=9C to avoid
> coverage
>
> I=E2=80=99m going to try to get clarification from PENNDOT
>
> Thx
>
> Rich R
>
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> On Monday, January 28, 2019, xj61975@aol.com <xj61975@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Believe what you want, Rich.
>
> Penndot is so random that you are likely to get any answer on any given
> day depending on who you talk to.
>
> Back when photos were required, I had applications bounced because of:
>
> -a person sitting in the car
> -front window was down
> -license plate visible and "was not original to the car"
>
> I actually resubmitted the photos with the person in the car to see what
> would happen, and a week later I got my plate. Go figure.
>
> If you can find in writing within the vehicle code that antique plates ar=
e
> not valid after dark, please let us know what section.
>
> I did up a 1941 Ford in the mid 1980's. I had a good friend who was a
> State Trooper at the time who ran it up his chain of command. "If you wa=
nt
> to drive legally after dark, make sure you have two taillights, turn
> signals, and sealed beam headlights". That was good enough for me.
>
> Or just go with Classic and keep going in for inspections each year.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rroenigk <rroenigk@aol.com>
> To: xj61975 <xj61975@aol.com>
> Cc: jstout310 <jstout310@gmail.com>; wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 7:45 am
> Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting
>
> Bill. I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week
>
> The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates
>
> And insurance company may not insure you
>
> You would think they know
>
>
> Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT
>
> Thx
>
> Rich R
>
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> On Sunday, January 27, 2019, xj61975@aol.com <xj61975@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Even before any recent changes, there is no restriction to drive an
> antique registered car in PA after dark as long as you lighting meets
> current standards. This has been true for at least the last 25 years if n=
ot
> longer. Many people do not understand this and stick with Classic plates.
>
> Bill Cooper
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Stout via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
> To: rroenigk <rroenigk@aol.com>
> Cc: wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm
> Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting
>
>
> I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this statemen=
t
> "used" to be there....
>
> *Antique vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise and sunset are
> exempt from the normal lighting *
> *requirements of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, but must have their
> original lighting equipment. *
>
> It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code, as =
I
> am unable to find
> it anyplace on PennDot documents...
>
> Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing about
> driving after dark..
>
> *USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES The use of
> antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by Section
> 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt is unlaw=
ful for
> any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique, classic or
> vintage registration plates for general daily transportation. Permitted u=
se
> shall be limited to participation in club activities, exhibits, tours,
> parades, occasional transportation and similar uses.=E2=80=9D Occasional
> transportation and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a wee=
k.
> Although buses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vintage
> registration plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passengers and
> trucks MAY NOT haul cargo. Antique, classic and vintage registration plat=
es
> are not available for motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.*
>
>
> http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs=
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> My Thoughts...
> Happy Sunday :-)
>
> Joe
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> On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:17 PM rroenigk--- via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net=
>
> wrote:
>
> Subject for discussion
>
> Antique Tags
>
> If PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark, does your insurance compan=
y still
> cover you if you do ?
>
> Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restrictions =
/
> guidelines
>
> I would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA
>
> Appreciate any feedback
>
> Thx
>
> Rich R
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> Tomorow
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<div><div dir=3D"auto">Go and download the latest MV 11 - photos are no lon=
ger required.</div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">J</d=
iv><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Jan 28, 201=
9 at 2:28 PM Kevin Dadey via Wpta <<a href=3D"mailto:wpta@autox.team.net=
">wpta@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
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e=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">=
<div><div>Hello,</div><div><br></div><div>Since we are talking about Antiqu=
e plates, I have a question. I'm planning to apply for Antique plates a=
nd noted the MV-11 form mentions 4 prequired photos - one from each side an=
d front and back. Obviously.=C2=A0</div><div>It also states if the car is c=
onvertible, the top must be up. Ugh. I have a top which has been removed an=
d requires some fittings and is likely to be a bit of a struggle. I don'=
;t really plan to use it. Really needs replaced but I'd rather spend mo=
ney on other more pressing needs. Also the previous owner replaced the exha=
ust with a 2-pipe, 4-tipped Monza. Has anyone had trouble with approval bec=
ause of photos other than Bill, or a modified exhaust?=C2=A0</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Thanks in advance,</div><div>Kevin=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><di=
v><br></div><div class=3D"m_-181001285217412788ydp25cc9cb4signature"><div s=
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>wpta@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:
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<p>OK Kiddies -</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>Being in the Risk Management Business, there is NO stipulation that limi=
ts driving during night hours on any of the following plates:</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A01) Antique</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A02) Historic</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A03) Classic</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>The "official recommendation" is that you do not drive after d=
ark on due to the lack of "lighting technology".</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>However, it is=C2=A0NOT illegal to drive after dark.</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>Larry Ross</p>
<div>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<div><font face=3D"Calibri"><strong>Lawrence Ross Agency</strong></font></d=
iv>
<div><font face=3D"calibri"><strong>67 Old Clairton Rd.</strong></font></di=
v>
<div><font face=3D"calibri"><strong>Pittsburgh, PA. 15236</strong></font></=
div>
<div><font face=3D"calibri"><strong>(412) 655-9990 - office</strong></font>=
</div>
<div><font face=3D"calibri"><strong>(412) 780-8495 - cell</strong></font></=
div>
</div>
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d=3D"m_-181001285217412788ydp757b7d68yiv8460901300yqt08490"><div style=3D"F=
ONT-SIZE:16px;FONT-FAMILY:Times New Roman;COLOR:#000000">
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=3D"DIRECTION:ltr"><font color=3D"#000000" size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><b>Fr=
om:</b> Wpta [<a href=3D"mailto:wpta-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">wpta-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] on behalf of rroenigk--- via Wpta [<a =
href=3D"mailto:wpta@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">wpta@autox.team.net</=
a>]<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 28, 2019 8:27 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:xj61975@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank">xj61975@aol=
.com</a><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:wpta@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">wpta@au=
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<b>Subject:</b> [External] Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>Bill. I agree on PENNDOT staff not knowing or adding their two cents
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>They scary part is our insurance companies use a =E2=80=9C loophole =
=E2=80=9C to avoid coverage=C2=A0</div>
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<div>I=E2=80=99m going to try to get clarification from PENNDOT</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Thx</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Rich R<br clear=3D"none">
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der">On=C2=A0Monday, January 28, 2019,=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:xj61975@aol.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">xj61975@aol.com</a>=C2=A0<<a href=3D"mailto:xj6197=
5@aol.com" target=3D"_blank">xj61975@aol.com</a>>=C2=A0wrote:
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RGIN:0px 0px 0px 9px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px">
<div id=3D"m_-181001285217412788ydp757b7d68yiv8460901300">
<div><font color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"arial">Believe what you want,=
Rich. </font>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Penndot is so random that you are likely to get any answer on any give=
n day depending on who you talk to.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Back when photos were required, I had applications bounced because of:=
</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>-a person sitting in the car</div>
<div>-front window was down</div>
<div>-license plate visible and "was not original to the car"</di=
v>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>I actually resubmitted the photos with the person in the car to see wh=
at would happen, and a week later I got my plate. Go figure.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>If you can find in writing within the vehicle code that antique plates=
are not valid after dark, please let us know what section.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>I did up a 1941 Ford in the mid 1980's. I had a good friend who wa=
s a State Trooper at the time who ran it up his chain of command.=C2=A0 &qu=
ot;If you want to drive legally after dark, make sure you have two tailligh=
ts, turn signals, and sealed beam headlights".
That was good enough for me.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Or just go with Classic and keep going in for inspections each year.</=
div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:10pt">Bill</span><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
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Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: rroenigk <<a href=3D"mailto:rroenigk@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank">rr=
oenigk@aol.com</a>><br clear=3D"none">
To: xj61975 <<a href=3D"mailto:xj61975@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank">xj6197=
5@aol.com</a>><br clear=3D"none">
Cc: jstout310 <<a href=3D"mailto:jstout310@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">=
jstout310@gmail.com</a>>; wpta <<a href=3D"mailto:wpta@autox.team.net=
" target=3D"_blank">wpta@autox.team.net</a>><br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 7:45 am<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>Bill.=C2=A0 I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>And insurance company may not insure you=C2=A0</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>You would think they know=C2=A0</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
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</div>
<div>Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT</div>
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</div>
<div>Thx</div>
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</div>
<div>Rich R<br clear=3D"none">
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<div class=3D"m_-181001285217412788ydp757b7d68yiv8460901300aolmail_replyHea=
der">On=C2=A0Sunday, January 27, 2019,=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:xj61975@aol.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">xj61975@aol.com</a>=C2=A0<<a href=3D"mailto:xj6197=
5@aol.com" target=3D"_blank">xj61975@aol.com</a>>=C2=A0wrote:
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<div id=3D"m_-181001285217412788ydp757b7d68yiv8460901300">
<div><font color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"arial">Even before any recent=
changes, there is no restriction to drive an antique registered car in PA =
after dark as long as you lighting meets current standards. This has been t=
rue for at least the last 25 years if
not longer. Many people do not understand this and stick with Classic plat=
es. </font>
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</div>
<div>Bill Cooper<br clear=3D"none">
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From: Joe Stout via Wpta <<a href=3D"mailto:wpta@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">wpta@autox.team.net</a>><br clear=3D"none">
To: rroenigk <<a href=3D"mailto:rroenigk@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank">rroe=
nigk@aol.com</a>><br clear=3D"none">
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Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this state=
ment "used" to be there....</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div><b><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Roboto,arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(106,10=
6,106)">Antique</span><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Roboto,arial,sans-serif;CO=
LOR:rgb(84,84,84)">=C2=A0vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise and=
=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Roboto,arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(1=
06,106,106)">sunset</span><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Roboto,arial,sans-seri=
f;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84)">=C2=A0are
exempt from the normal lighting=C2=A0</span></b></div>
<div><b><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Roboto,arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,=
84)">requirements of the=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Roboto,aria=
l,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(106,106,106)">Pennsylvania</span><span style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY:Roboto,arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84)">=C2=A0Vehicle
Code, but must have their original lighting equipment.</span>=C2=A0=C2=A0<=
/b></div>
<div><b><br clear=3D"none">
</b></div>
<div>It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code, =
as I am unable to find</div>
<div>it anyplace on PennDot documents...</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing abo=
ut driving after dark..</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>=C2=A0 <b>USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES The =
use of antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by Sect=
ion 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt is unl=
awful for any person to operate a motorcycle
or vehicle with antique, classic or vintage registration plates for genera=
l daily transportation. Permitted use shall be limited to participation in =
club activities, exhibits, tours, parades, occasional transportation and si=
milar uses.=E2=80=9D Occasional transportation
and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a week. Although buse=
s and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vintage registration pla=
tes, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passengers and trucks MAY NOT haul =
cargo. Antique, classic and vintage
registration plates are not available for motorized pedalcycles or motor h=
omes.</b>=C2=A0</div>
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=3Dhttp-3A__www.dot.state.pa.us_public_dvspubsforms_BMV_BMV-2520Fact-2520Sh=
eets_fs-2Dant.pdf&d=3DDwMFaQ&c=3DgtIjdLs6LnStUpy9cTOW9w&r=3DDDt=
SG8nRC8NiocJzcdi_vtq_cUk1B9QaQGTWcmcVhS4&m=3DkuCsD5WbvySwtSbunHFHP1OQui=
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<div>My Thoughts...</div>
<div>Happy Sunday :-)</div>
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</div>
<div>Joe</div>
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=3D"ltr">On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:17 PM rroenigk--- via Wpta <<a shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:wpta@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_b=
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te" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT:1ex;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;MARGIN=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">
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d=3D"m_-181001285217412788ydp757b7d68yiv8460901300yqtfd86776">Subject for d=
iscussion=C2=A0
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<div>Antique Tags</div>
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</div>
<div>If PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark, does your insurance com=
pany still cover you if you do ?</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restrictio=
ns / guidelines=C2=A0</div>
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</div>
<div>I would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA</div>
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<div>Appreciate any feedback=C2=A0</div>
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<div>Thx</div>
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