There was a '97 Ferrari 333SP at last years HSR Daytona event.
Bob H
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Sieling <sarl45@hotmail.com>
To: derek.lola@sympatico.ca <derek.lola@sympatico.ca>; S800Racer@aol.com
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Date: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: Vintage Eligibility
>Derek,
>
>How old do you think the "historic stock cars" are. I haven't seen a single
>one on the track that is more than 10 years old. That's vintage??? I would
>think the 333SPs could run in HSR's Thundersports, even today, but I guess
>they'd have to ask Joe.
>
>Roger
>
>
>>From: Derek Harling <derek.lola@sympatico.ca>
>>Reply-To: Derek Harling <derek.lola@sympatico.ca>
>>To: S800Racer@aol.com
>>CC: simon@mondes.com, vintage-race@autox.team.net, JWoesvra@aol.com,
>>David.Laver@msdw.com, lwdent@fwi.com
>>Subject: Re: Vintage Eligibility
>>Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 10:10:51 -0400
>>
>>Another load of Common Sense - what is this list coming to?
>>Thanks, Doug
>>Another example of "progress" or of "passing years" - Ferrari 333SPs are
>>occasionally turning up at vintage/historic - these were "state of the
art"
>>less
>>than a decade ago but are now outdated. No doubt some will say,
>>effectively,
>>"store them for another decade or so while we decide if/when/where to
>>accept
>>them" - I say - lets embrace them - they are "thoroughbreds" - just need
to
>>find
>>the appropriate venues/groups/classes. The more we encourage this sort of
>>acceptance the more worthwhile race cars will continue to be available for
>>future
>>generations.
>>Derek
>>
>>S800Racer@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> > In a message dated 8/7/00 4:54:30 PM, simon@mondes.com writes:
>> >
>> > <<Is this distinction because former SCCA Production cars are
considered
>>evil
>> > in some circles?>>
>> >
>> > It's not that certain cars are "evil", it's really a matter of
>>recreating
>> > certain periods in time. Much of vintage racing is aimed at recreating
>> > sports car racing during the 1950's and 1960's. A period considered by
>>most
>> > to be a "golden age" of sports car racing. In the 1970's and 1980's
>> > tube-framed and plastic bodied racers began to fill out the
"production"
>>car
>> > fields. These cars were not made by sports car manufacturers but
rather
>>by
>> > race shops and home builders. The '70's and '80's also brought slick
>>tires,
>> > proliferation of sponsorship and other changes. The cars from this
>>latter
>> > period are not "evil" or any less a race car than the cars of the
former
>> > period. They are different. They are generally faster. They are in
>>some
>> > ways more replaceable in that a tube framed car can always be repaired
>>with
>> > new tubes and some welding.
>> > Vintage racing was in it's infancy when the cars of the 1970's and
>>1980's
>> > were being raced competitively and at the time no one worried about
>>whether
>> > or how they would fit into vintage racing in 20 or 30 years. In 1980
>>there
>> > were few if any places to run a 1975 SCCA production racer as a vintage
>>car.
>> > Now that such a car is 25 years old, it seems like there should be a
>>place
>> > for it. The prejudice that you sense comes from those who do not want
>>such a
>> > car mixed in with cars representing a different age of sports car
>>racing.
>> >
>> > Doug Meis
>>
>
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