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Don, maybe you can help me. I just started vintage racing-I have a 62
Giulietta spider that I bought set up for racing. The car worked great lst
year, but I need to do some things to it and really need to talk with someone
who KNOWS.
I am thinking about converting the 3 shoe drums to disk, suspension changes to
lower the car, new wheels-can 6" wide Panasports fit-with MINOR flairing, etc.
Can you recommend anyone I can talk to.
Thanks,
Alfert (Brian
Subj: Re: New Improved Team List ( removes stubborn stains )
Date: 97-12-25 13:42:47 EST
From: CLC SF
To: Alfert
CC: hayes@mediaone.net
Good timing! I'm in the midst of converting my 2 shoe front drums to disc
I've wrestled my 1600 to a stop for 3 years with drum brakes and I decided
this winter I'd end my misery.
There are many issues to consider, the first may be acceptability by your
local club. Here in the SF area, the conversion is acceptable up to a 1967
point in time, which means essentially, the later model ATE (2 liter) brakes
or the early Guilia Gerling 3 piston system.
The Gerling (or maybe they're Dunlap) system came with the 101 series 62-65
Guilia. The advantage is that this system is a bolt in with no change in
offset or geometry. The problem is availability of both the system and
replacement parts. In addition, it is inferior in stopping power to the ATE
system.
The ATE brakes are available on all later model Alfas, but require an adapter
sold by Alfa Ricambi for about $175. This will alter both your offset and
steering geometry, not really a big problem to deal with.
Both will require a new master which may be a good time to switch to a split
master if you can find a 69 Duetto. Here you must deal with the issue of
master cylinder piston size. A larger than stock piston ( such as the Duetto)
will give you harder pedal effort but a shorter throw.
I went with the early Guilia system mainly because one was available and the
installation is a snap. I'm using the original Guilia master for the same
reason. I will not have the stopping power of the ATE brakes, but with the
weight and power of my car, I think the ATE might be overkill.
I solved the problem of parts availability by discovering White Post
Restoration (540-837-1140) who rebuilt my calipers and master in addition
to supplying me with an extra set of Carbon Kevlar brake pads.
Check out Jim Hayes website ( http://www.std.com/fotec/jim.htm) for detailed
instructions on the ATE conversion and contact Jim at (hayes@mediaone.net)
If all else fails, I can fax you a great article on how to adjust the 3 shoe
system.
Happy Holidays
Don Queen
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 13:42:47 EST
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Good timing! I'm in the midst of converting my 2 shoe front drums to disc
I've wrestled my 1600 to a stop for 3 years with drum brakes and I decided
this winter I'd end my misery.
There are many issues to consider, the first may be acceptability by your
local club. Here in the SF area, the conversion is acceptable up to a 1967
point in time, which means essentially, the later model ATE (2 liter) brakes
or the early Guilia Gerling 3 piston system.
The Gerling (or maybe they're Dunlap) system came with the 101 series 62-65
Guilia. The advantage is that this system is a bolt in with no change in
offset or geometry. The problem is availability of both the system and
replacement parts. In addition, it is inferior in stopping power to the ATE
system.
The ATE brakes are available on all later model Alfas, but require an adapter
sold by Alfa Ricambi for about $175. This will alter both your offset and
steering geometry, not really a big problem to deal with.
Both will require a new master which may be a good time to switch to a split
master if you can find a 69 Duetto. Here you must deal with the issue of
master cylinder piston size. A larger than stock piston ( such as the Duetto)
will give you harder pedal effort but a shorter throw.
I went with the early Guilia system mainly because one was available and the
installation is a snap. I'm using the original Guilia master for the same
reason. I will not have the stopping power of the ATE brakes, but with the
weight and power of my car, I think the ATE might be overkill.
I solved the problem of parts availability by discovering White Post
Restoration (540-837-1140) who rebuilt my calipers and master in addition
to supplying me with an extra set of Carbon Kevlar brake pads.
Check out Jim Hayes website ( http://www.std.com/fotec/jim.htm) for detailed
instructions on the ATE conversion and contact Jim at (hayes@mediaone.net)
If all else fails, I can fax you a great article on how to adjust the 3 shoe
system.
Happy Holidays
Don Queen
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