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So the announcement of Moss and Rimmer's is misleading at best.=C2=A0 They =
announced that they were joining forces but in actuality they are joining a=
LARGE conglomerate in which they are but a small cog in the machine.=C2=A0=
It all depends on how much autonomy the managing directors of each company=
will enjoy.=C2=A0 I don't expect any cooperation outside of parts sourcing=
operations.
Dave=20
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On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 09:46:33 AM CDT, William Smith <smithwm8=
45@gmail.com> wrote: =20
=20
Gentlemen,=C2=A0 by now most of you have been made aware of the Rimmer/Mos=
s
business combination that they euphemistically call a "partnership".
This raised a number of questions in my mind, so I sent an email to each of
them. I received a response from Rimmer today to which I then replied.
Below, is the thread of the email communications between us.
Bill Smith
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: William Smith <smithwm845@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: Rimmer/Moss Partnership #66210050
To: <sales@rimmerbros.com>
Dear Andrew, thank you very much for your prompt and enlightening reply.=C2=
=A0 I
certainly hope this business combination will ultimately be a positive for
both your customers and the employees of both Rimmer and Moss.
As a longtime customer, I hope and trust that all customers will be be kept
informed of all changes resulting from the combination.
Additionally, I certainly hope that the combination will allow the
continuation, and hopefully expansion of support for the Triumph TR7=C2=A0 =
and
TR8 models.=C2=A0 Unfortunately, this was not the case when Moss acquired t=
he
business of=C2=A0 Victoria British here in the USA.
Thanks again,
Bill Smith
On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 9:27 AM <sales@rimmerbros.com> wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
>
> Thank you for your email, there are certainly exciting times ahead!
>
> In response to your questions, please bear with us as it is very early
> days and for the time being it's business as usual. I am sure that any
> changes desired by the new owners will be communicated to customers as th=
ey
> are implemented.
>
>
> 1) Please continue to use your preferred company, we are still operating
> as individual businesses, although the shareholders have changed.
>
> 2) Currently we retain all our own individual catalogs and also part
> numbers. Combining them, if that is what is deemed desirable, will be a
> mammoth undertaking and we could expect to take some considerable time.
>
> 3) There is already a crossover of products in inventory ranges where we
> have either been selling to each other or buying from the same source for
> years.=C2=A0 At this early stage, we don't yet know if the longer term wi=
ll lead
> to each company offering some or all the other company's products,
> certainly that would require the catalog work above to be done not to
> mention inventory/warehouse expansion.
>
> 4) For now returns and exchanges will work just as they do currently, as
> we are still operating as individual businesses. So if you purchased from
> Moss deal with Moss for the return and the same with product sourced from
> Rimmer Bros. In time we may be able to facilitate returns differently, bu=
t
> that is a way off at this stage.
>
> 5) There is no change to shipping times and costs at present, in time if
> catalogs and product ranges end up being combined plus the necessary
> warehouse changes to allow them to hold extra inventory, there may be, bu=
t
> at this stage it's too early to give a definitive answer.
>
> 6) That is essentially the same question as 3, so please see above for th=
e
> answer.
>
> 7) Bill and Graham Rimmer as sole owners of Rimmer Bros sold their entire
> company to Radial Equity Partners and at the same time the owners of Moss
> Motors did the same. Radial Equity partners already have a number of
> Automotive companies such as Coker Tire, Corvette Central, Multi Parts
> (MPS), Ohio Transmission Corporation and Zip Corvette which they operate =
as
> separate businesses each with their individual websites and pricing.
>
>
> I hope that answers your questions for now, we will all know more this
> time next year.
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
> *Rimmer Bros*
> Telephone: 01522 568000
> Email: sales@rimmerbros.com
> Website: www.rimmerbros.com <https://rimmerbros.com/>
> Address: Triumph House, Sleaford Road, Bracebridge Heath, Lincoln, LN4 2N=
A
> <https://twitter.com/rimmerbros> <https://www.facebook.com/Rimmerbros>
> <https://www.youtube.com/@RimmerBrosTV/featured>
> <https://www.instagram.com/rimmerbros/>
>
>
> On 17 April 2024 21:07 UTC, WILLIAM SMITH <smithwm845@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ok, gentlemen and gentlewomen, I received the emails from both your
> companies announcing the partnership between your organizations.=C2=A0 Ho=
wever,
> this leaves a number of questions in my mind (and I'm sure many other
> customers minds):
>
> 1. If I want to place an order, with whom should I place that order?
>
> 2. Will your catalogs be combined?
>
> 3. Will each of you carry all of the other company's products?
>
> 4. How will returns and exchanges work?
>
> 5. What will be the impact on shipping times and costs (e.g., will there
> be any savings on shipping cost or times if, say a Rimmer product is
> purchased through Moss)?
>
> 6. will we be able to purchase a Rimmer inventory item through Moss, and
> vice-versa?
>
> 7. What is the specific nature of your "partnership"?
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Is it a legal partnership?
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Is it an acquisition by one of you of the other?
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Is it merely a selling arrangement?
>
> !!The bottom line is: Your customers need more information details on how
> this partnership will affect them!!
>
> Best wishes from a long-time customer of both your orgnizations,
>
> William (Bill) Smith
>
>
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is misleading at best. They announced that they were joining forces =
but in actuality they are joining a LARGE conglomerate in which they are bu=
t a small cog in the machine. It all depends on how much autonomy the=
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<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Gentlemen, by now most of you h=
ave been made aware of the Rimmer/Moss<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">business combination that they euphemistically call a "partnership".<b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">This raised a number of questions in my mind, so I sent an email t=
o each of<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">them. I received a respo=
nse from Rimmer today to which I then replied.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr">Below, is the thread of the email communications between us.<b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Bill Smith<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: William Smith <<a shape=3D"rect" =
href=3D"mailto:smithwm845@gmail.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">smi=
thwm845@gmail.com</a>><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Th=
u, Apr 18, 2024, 10:33 AM<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject:=
Re: Rimmer/Moss Partnership #66210050<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">To: <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:sales@rimmerbros.com"; rel=3D"=
nofollow" target=3D"_blank">sales@rimmerbros.com</a>><br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Dear Andrew, thank you very much for your =
prompt and enlightening reply. I<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">certainly hope this business combination will ultimately be a positive=
for<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">both your customers and the e=
mployees of both Rimmer and Moss.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">As a longtime customer, I hope an=
d trust that all customers will be be kept<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">informed of all changes resulting from the combination.<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Additionally, I certainly hope that the combination will allow the<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">continuation, and hopefully expansion of s=
upport for the Triumph TR7 and<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">TR8 models. Unfortunately, this was not the case when Moss acquire=
d the<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">business of Victoria B=
ritish here in the USA.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks again,<br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr">Bill Smith<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 9:27 AM <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:sales@ri=
mmerbros.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">sales@rimmerbros.com</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">> Hi Bill,<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">> Thank you for your email, there are certainly exciting =
times ahead!<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> In response to your questions, please bear wi=
th us as it is very early<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> day=
s and for the time being it's business as usual. I am sure that any<br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> changes desired by the new owners wi=
ll be communicated to customers as they<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">> are implemented.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">> 1) Please continue to use your preferred company, we are st=
ill operating<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> as individual b=
usinesses, although the shareholders have changed.<br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> 2) Curr=
ently we retain all our own individual catalogs and also part<br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> numbers. Combining them, if that is what i=
s deemed desirable, will be a<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>=
mammoth undertaking and we could expect to take some considerable time.<br=
clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">> 3) There is already a crossover of products in inventory ran=
ges where we<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> have either been=
selling to each other or buying from the same source for<br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> years. At this early stage, we don't yet=
know if the longer term will lead<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>> to each company offering some or all the other company's products,<br=
clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> certainly that would require th=
e catalog work above to be done not to<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">> mention inventory/warehouse expansion.<br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> 4) For no=
w returns and exchanges will work just as they do currently, as<br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> we are still operating as individual bus=
inesses. So if you purchased from<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
> Moss deal with Moss for the return and the same with product sourced f=
rom<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> Rimmer Bros. In time we m=
ay be able to facilitate returns differently, but<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">> that is a way off at this stage.<br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> 5) T=
here is no change to shipping times and costs at present, in time if<br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> catalogs and product ranges end up =
being combined plus the necessary<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
> warehouse changes to allow them to hold extra inventory, there may be,=
but<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> at this stage it's too e=
arly to give a definitive answer.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> 6) That is essentially t=
he same question as 3, so please see above for the<br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">> answer.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> 7) Bill and Graham Rimmer as=
sole owners of Rimmer Bros sold their entire<br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">> company to Radial Equity Partners and at the same time the=
owners of Moss<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> Motors did th=
e same. Radial Equity partners already have a number of<br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">> Automotive companies such as Coker Tire, Corvett=
e Central, Multi Parts<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> (MPS),=
Ohio Transmission Corporation and Zip Corvette which they operate as<br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> separate businesses each with thei=
r individual websites and pricing.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">> I hope that answers your questions for now, we will =
all know more this<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> time next =
year.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> Kind r=
egards<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">> Andrew<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> *Rimmer Bros*<br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">> Telephone: 01522 568000<br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr">> Email: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:sales@rimmerbros.=
com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">sales@rimmerbros.com</a><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> Website: www.rimmerbros.com <<a sh=
ape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://rimmerbros.com/"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_b=
lank">https://rimmerbros.com/</a>><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">> Address: Triumph House, Sleaford Road, Bracebridge Heath, Lincoln,=
LN4 2NA<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> <<a shape=3D"rect=
" href=3D"https://twitter.com/rimmerbros"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank=
">https://twitter.com/rimmerbros</a>> <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http=
s://www.facebook.com/Rimmerbros" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https:/=
/www.facebook.com/Rimmerbros</a>><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">> <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/@RimmerBrosTV=
/featured" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@Rimm=
erBrosTV/featured</a>><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> <=
;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.instagram.com/rimmerbros/"; rel=3D"no=
follow" target=3D"_blank">https://www.instagram.com/rimmerbros/</a>><br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> On 17 April 202=
4 21:07 UTC, WILLIAM SMITH <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:smithwm845@=
gmail.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">smithwm845@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">> Ok, gentlemen and gentlewomen, I received the email=
s from both your<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> companies an=
nouncing the partnership between your organizations. However,<br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> this leaves a number of questions in=
my mind (and I'm sure many other<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
> customers minds):<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> 1. If I want to place an order, wit=
h whom should I place that order?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> 2. Will your catalogs be=
combined?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">> 3. Will each of you carry all of the other comp=
any's products?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> 4. How will returns and exchanges work?<br=
clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">> 5. What will be the impact on shipping times and costs (e.g.=
, will there<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> be any savings o=
n shipping cost or times if, say a Rimmer product is<br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">> purchased through Moss)?<br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> 6. will w=
e be able to purchase a Rimmer inventory item through Moss, and<br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> vice-versa?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> 7. What is =
the specific nature of your "partnership"?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> - =
Is it a legal partnership?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>&nb=
sp; - Is it an acquisition by one of you of the other?<br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> - Is it merely a selling arra=
ngement?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">> !!The bottom line is: Your customers need more in=
formation details on how<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> this=
partnership will affect them!!<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> Best wishes from a long-ti=
me customer of both your orgnizations,<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> William (Bill) Smit=
h<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">--<br clear=3D"=
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