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A quart per fill-up ain't normal.=C2=A0 That's what mine was doing and I t=
ook it back apart because of that.=C2=A0 You may need to have words with th=
e engine rebuilder.
And, like I said, it was the factory trying to avoid some warranty work.=C2=
=A0 I agree, adding more than a quart in between oil change is not what it =
could be.=C2=A0=20
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From: dave <dave@ranteer.com>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, Nov 12, 2021 8:29 am
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 issue
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about a quart per fillup? =C2=A0And I totally disagree that these engines =
need to use oil.=C2=A0 My engine was rebuilt by an excellent mechanic, and =
it uses practically no oil.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I almost never have to add oil.=C2=
=A0 And we drive it hard.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1mass=
ey@cs.com>=20
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 7:50 PM
To: dave@ranteer.com; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 issue =C2=A0What is meant by "Engine uses a lot of oi=
l?"=C2=A0 These things are notorious for using a lot of oil.=C2=A0 The fact=
ory once said that a quart every 600 miles is "normal."=C2=A0 But that was =
probably an effort to get out of some warranty work.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I seem to=
recall that a puff of blue smoke on acceleration was blow-by, (i.e. rings)=
=C2=A0I rebuilt a TR6 engine that ran great but lost a quart every 300 mil=
es.=C2=A0 A co-worker who used to work for TRW in the piston ring departmen=
t said that I may have installed the rings upside down.=C2=A0 He said they =
were not symmetrical and applied more pressure on the bottom edge to better=
scrape any oil on the cylinder walls to reduce consumption.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I=
bought a used engine to drive while I rebuilt this one.=C2=A0 This used en=
gine is still in the car 30 years later (I never rebuilt that engine) and l=
ooses a quart every 1300 miles or so.=C2=A0 Some times it is best to leave =
well enough alone. =C2=A0Dave =C2=A0 =C2=A0-----Original Message-----
From: dave <dave@ranteer.com>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, Nov 11, 2021 8:56 am
Subject: [TR] TR6 issueI have a friend who has a 74 TR6.=C2=A0 Recent rebui=
ld of the engine both top and bottom.=C2=A0 We are a little suspicious of t=
he machine shop that did the head.=C2=A0 The bottom end was done a year lat=
er by a different machinist.=C2=A0All pollution stuff is gone.=C2=A0Compres=
sion across all 6 cylinders is within a couple PSI=C2=A0Leakdown test was a=
small % on all cylinders=C2=A0Engine uses a lot of oil and there is a blue=
puff when he accelerates or engine brakes=C2=A0We think its likely the val=
ve guides are leaking.=C2=A0What do you think?** triumphs@autox.team.net **
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<div> <font size=3D"3">A quart per fill-up ain't normal. That's what =
mine was doing and I took it back apart because of that. You may need=
to have words with the engine rebuilder.</font></div>
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<div><font size=3D"3">And, like I said, it was the factory trying to avoid =
some warranty work. I agree, adding more than a quart in between oil =
change is not what it could be. </font><br>
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<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
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size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: dave <dave@ranteer.com><br>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Sent: Fri, Nov 12, 2021 8:29 am<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 issue<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal">How about a quart per fillup?</div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal">And I totally disagree that these eng=
ines need to use oil. My engine was rebuilt by an excellent mechanic,=
and it uses practically no oil. </div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal">I almost never have to add oil. =
And we drive it hard. </div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"> </div>
<div id=3D"yiv7169711364yqt43752" class=3D"yiv7169711364yqt7006353609">
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0in 0in;">
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> DAVID MASSEY <dave1ma=
ssey@cs.com> <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 11, 2021=
7:50 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> dave@ranteer.com; triumphs@autox.team=
.net<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR6 issue</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"> </div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">What is meant by "Engine uses a lot of oil?=
" These things are notorious for using a lot of oil. The factor=
y once said that a quart every 600 miles is "normal." But that was pr=
obably an effort to get out of some warranty work. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></div>
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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">I seem to recall that a puff of blue smoke =
on acceleration was blow-by, (i.e. rings)</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">I rebuilt a TR6 engine that ran great but l=
ost a quart every 300 miles. A co-worker who used to work for TRW in =
the piston ring department said that I may have installed the rings upside =
down. He said they were not symmetrical and applied more pressure on =
the bottom edge to better scrape any oil on the cylinder walls to reduce co=
nsumption. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">I bought a used engine to drive while I reb=
uilt this one. This used engine is still in the car 30 years later (I=
never rebuilt that engine) and looses a quart every 1300 miles or so. =
; Some times it is best to leave well enough alone.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
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family:sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></div>
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<div style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span=
style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Dave </span=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"></spa=
n></div>
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family:sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></div>
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family:sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></div>
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<div style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span=
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">-----Origin=
al Message-----<br clear=3D"none">From: dave <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopene=
r noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; target=3D"=
_blank" href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave@ranteer.com</a>><br clear=
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phs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none">Sent: Thu=
, Nov 11, 2021 8:56 am<br clear=3D"none">Subject: [TR] TR6 issue</span></di=
v>
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<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">I have a friend who has a 74 TR6. Rec=
ent rebuild of the engine both top and bottom. We are a little suspic=
ious of the machine shop that did the head. The bottom end was done a=
year later by a different machinist.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">All pollution stuff is gone.</span></div>
</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></div>
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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Compression across all 6 cylinders is withi=
n a couple PSI</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Leakdown test was a small % on all cylinder=
s</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Engine uses a lot of oil and there is a blu=
e puff when he accelerates or engine brakes</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">We think its likely the valve guides are le=
aking.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">What do you think?</span></div>
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