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>From the factory when new, there was no paint where you don't see. The bodies
>were painted after assembly. So, rust happens quickly where paint was never
>applied. If you prepare and paint everything before assembly, there shouldn't
>be a huge problem with rust. The fill panel with it's rubber seals between
>the bulk head and fender doesn't seal very well. You just have to be a little
>creative to improve the seal. Perhaps inject some expandable foam behind the
>rubber seals to back them up. The gutter between the top edge of the fender
>and hood/bonnet gap got a packing of putty, dumb-dumb, right at the bulkhead
>from the factory so water and debris wouldn't run down and fill boxed-in space
>behind the fender fill panel. With some care and the fact that the car might
>not be used in the same way it did in the first 60 years of it's life you
>might not have to be too concerned. Yes, you could remove the fill panel on
>occasion to check and clean that space. Also remove the three bolts at the
>bottom edge of the fender to help get it good and clean. Or, just let the
>next custodian deal with it. When I built TS46235 every single body fastener
>got a little anti-seeze, so the fasteners would not rust an be easier to
>remove.
Dave Hogye
TS2172LO
TS46235L
TS51651L
> On 11/10/2021 3:15 AM Alan & Lyn Dunscombe <dunscomb@chch.planet.org.nz>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi all
>
> Finally after 40 years driving I am getting the sills & floors on my TR2
> replaced, currently at the panel beaters having them welded in. So my
> question is:-
>
> How to deal with the dirt & moisture trap made by the "box" enclosed by
> the bulkhead & sealing plate at the front, the 'A' pillar at the back, the
> sill & front guard (fender in USA) at the bottom, & the rear of the inner
> guard etc at the top.
>
> We all know that the factory sealing plate & rubber seals at the front
> are meant to stop the road dirt & moisture getting in, but don't do it very
> well. Then when it rains the water comes in between the side of the bonnet
> (hood in USA) & the front guards onto the top of the inner guard (fender),
> plus at the rear end of the bonnet it runs down from the gutter at the front
> of the bulkhead into the gap at the rear of the inner guard which is cleverly
> angled so that all this water drips off the back end into the above mentioned
> "box" enclosure where it combines with the road dirt etc and eventually rots
> out the front of the sill and the side kick panel in the cockpit & then the
> front of the floors.
>
> General consensus seem to be that we should remove the bulkhead sealing
> plates each year and clean out all this accumulated 'crud' and dry out this
> area before replacing them.
>
> Has anyone come up with a way of draining this area so it doesn't stay
> damp?
>
> What is the consensus on the best treatment of this front part of the
> sill and bottom of the inner side of the guard etc. to stop rust attacking it?
>
> All suggestions gratefully received.
>
> cheers,
>
> stay safe,
>
> Alan TS3612
>
>
>
> AW & LJ Dunscombe
> New Zealand
>
>
>
>
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> > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2021 15:41:07 -0600
> > From: Guy Huggins <guy.huggins@icloud.com>
> > mailto:guy.huggins@icloud.com
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> > Listers,
> >
> > Does anyone know the dimensions of the two-part crankshaft pulley
> > for the TR4A?
> > Mine is attached, and my calipers won?t open enough to measure the
> > diameter.
> >
> > I am looking to determine the circumference, in order to make
> > timing marks for when I start putting everything back together after the
> > head gasket work.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Guy D. Huggins
> > 1965 Triumph TR4A
> > CTC 63569LO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2021 19:48:03 -0500
> > From: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
> > mailto:forzion7@gmail.com
> > To: Guy Huggins <guy.huggins@icloud.com>
> > mailto:guy.huggins@icloud.com
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> > Guy;
> >
> > If it's the same diameter as the pulley on the TR3A then
> > the diameter is 5.5 inches. Ten degrees BTDC can be
> > marked at 1/2" from the pulley TDC timing mark.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 4:43 PM Guy Huggins <guy.huggins@icloud.com>
> > mailto:guy.huggins@icloud.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > > >
> > > Listers,
> > >
> > > Does anyone know the dimensions of the two-part crankshaft
> > > pulley for the
> > > TR4A?
> > > Mine is attached, and my calipers won?t open enough to
> > > measure the
> > > diameter.
> > >
> > > I am looking to determine the circumference, in order to make
> > > timing marks
> > > for when I start putting everything back together after the
> > > head gasket
> > > work.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Guy D. Huggins
> > > 1965 Triumph TR4A
> > > CTC 63569LO
> > >
> > >
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y when new, there was no paint where you don't see. The bodies were p=
ainted after assembly. So, rust happens quickly where paint was never=
applied. If you prepare and paint everything before assembly, there =
shouldn't be a huge problem with rust. The fill panel with it's rubbe=
r seals between the bulk head and fender doesn't seal very well. You =
just have to be a little creative to improve the seal. Perhaps inject=
some expandable foam behind the rubber seals to back them up. The gu=
tter between the top edge of the fender and hood/bonnet gap got a packing o=
f putty, dumb-dumb, right at the bulkhead from the factory so water and deb=
ris wouldn't run down and fill boxed-in space behind the fender fill panel.=
With some care and the fact that the car might not be used in the sa=
me way it did in the first 60 years of it's life you might not have to be t=
oo concerned. Yes, you could remove the fill panel on occasion to che=
ck and clean that space. Also remove the three bolts at the bottom ed=
ge of the fender to help get it good and clean. Or, just let the next=
custodian deal with it. When I built TS46235 every single body faste=
ner got a little anti-seeze, so the fasteners would not rust an be easier t=
o remove. </span>
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<div>
On 11/10/2021 3:15 AM Alan & Lyn Dunscombe <dunscomb@chch.planet=
.org.nz> wrote:
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%=
;">Hi all</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%=
;">Finally after 40 years driving I am getting the sills & floors on my=
TR2 replaced, currently at the panel beaters having them welded in. So my =
question is:-</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%=
;">How to deal with the dirt & moisture trap made by the "box" enclosed=
by the bulkhead & sealing plate at the front, the 'A' pillar at the ba=
ck, the sill & front guard (fender in USA) at the bottom, & the rea=
r of the inner guard etc at the top. </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%=
;">We all know that the factory sealing plate & rubber seals at the fro=
nt are meant to stop the road dirt & moisture getting in, but don't do =
it very well. Then when it rains the water comes in between the side of the=
bonnet (hood in USA) & the front guards onto the top of the inner guar=
d (fender), plus at the rear end of the bonnet it runs down from the gutter=
at the front of the bulkhead into the gap at the rear of the inner guard w=
hich is cleverly angled so that all this water drips off the back end into =
the above mentioned "box" enclosure where it combines with the road dirt et=
c and eventually rots out the front of the sill and the side kick panel in =
the cockpit & then the front of the floors.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%=
;">General consensus seem to be that we should remove the bulkhead sealing =
plates each year and clean out all this accumulated 'crud' and dry out this=
area before replacing them. </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%=
;">Has anyone come up with a way of draining this area so it doesn't stay d=
amp?</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%=
;">What is the consensus on the best treatment of this front part of =
the sill and bottom of the inner side of the guard etc. to stop rust attack=
ing it?</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%=
;">All suggestions gratefully received.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%=
;">cheers,</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%=
;">stay safe,</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%=
;">Alan TS3612</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%=
;"> </span></p>
<pre class=3D"moz-signature">AW & LJ Dunscombe
New Zealand
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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2021 15:41:07 -0600
From: Guy Huggins <a href=3D"mailto:guy.huggins@icloud.com"; class=3D"moz-tx=
t-link-rfc2396E"><guy.huggins@icloud.com></a>
To: Triumph Mailing List <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; class=
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Subject: [TR] TR4A Pulley Dimensions
om" class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><89B5ABD9-F206-4294-89E2-3389134F155=
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Listers,
Does anyone know the dimensions of the two-part crankshaft pulley for the T=
R4A?
Mine is attached, and my calipers won?t open enough to measure the diameter=
.
I am looking to determine the circumference, in order to make timing marks =
for when I start putting everything back together after the head gasket wor=
k.
Cheers,
Guy D. Huggins
1965 Triumph TR4A
CTC 63569LO
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2021 19:48:03 -0500
From: David Friedlander <a href=3D"mailto:forzion7@gmail.com"; class=3D"moz-=
txt-link-rfc2396E"><forzion7@gmail.com></a>
To: Guy Huggins <a href=3D"mailto:guy.huggins@icloud.com"; class=3D"moz-txt-=
link-rfc2396E"><guy.huggins@icloud.com></a>
Cc: Triumph Mailing List <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; class=
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Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A Pulley Dimensions
Message-ID:
<a href=3D"mailto:CAJ1eQwj_n+1MMi02VuZgo0F1y5U3Ao7RzeOq+GBUh_j2-ii6QA@mail=
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Guy;
If it's the same diameter as the pulley on the TR3A then
the diameter is 5.5 inches. Ten degrees BTDC can be
marked at 1/2" from the pulley TDC timing mark.
Dave
On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 4:43 PM Guy Huggins <a href=3D"mailto:guy.huggins@ic=
loud.com" class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><guy.huggins@icloud.com></a=
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Does anyone know the dimensions of the two-part crankshaft pulley for the
TR4A?
Mine is attached, and my calipers won?t open enough to measure the
diameter.
I am looking to determine the circumference, in order to make timing marks
for when I start putting everything back together after the head gasket
work.
Cheers,
Guy D. Huggins
1965 Triumph TR4A
CTC 63569LO
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