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Re: [TR] TR2 sill / bulkhead sealing

from [Alan & Lyn Dunscombe] [Permanent Link][Original]
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR2 sill / bulkhead sealing
From: Alan & Lyn Dunscombe <dunscomb@chch.planet.org.nz>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 00:15:46 +1300
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Hi all

Finally after 40 years driving I am getting the sills & floors on my TR2 
replaced, currently at the panel beaters having them welded in. So my 
question is:-

How to deal with the dirt & moisture trap made by the "box" enclosed by 
the bulkhead & sealing plate at the front, the 'A' pillar at the back, 
the sill & front guard (fender in USA) at the bottom, & the rear of the 
inner guard etc at the top.

We all know that the factory sealing plate & rubber seals at the front 
are meant to stop the road dirt & moisture getting in, but don't do it 
very well. Then when it rains the water comes in between the side of the 
bonnet (hood in USA) & the front guards onto the top of the inner guard 
(fender), plus at the rear end of the bonnet it runs down from the 
gutter at the front of the bulkhead into the gap at the rear of the 
inner guard which is cleverly angled so that all this water drips off 
the back end into the above mentioned "box" enclosure where it combines 
with the road dirt etc and eventually rots out the front of the sill and 
the side kick panel in the cockpit & then the front of the floors.

General consensus seem to be that we should remove the bulkhead sealing 
plates each year and clean out all this accumulated 'crud' and dry out 
this area before replacing them.

Has anyone come up with a way of draining this area so it doesn't stay damp?

What is the consensus on the best treatment of this front part of the 
sill and bottom of the inner side of the guard etc. to stop rust 
attacking it?

All suggestions gratefully received.

cheers,

stay safe,

Alan TS3612

AW&  LJ Dunscombe
New Zealand




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> Listers,
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> Does anyone know the dimensions of the two-part crankshaft pulley for the 
> TR4A?
> Mine is attached, and my calipers won?t open enough to measure the diameter.
>
> I am looking to determine the circumference, in order to make timing marks 
> for when I start putting everything back together after the head gasket work.
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> Cheers,
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> Guy D. Huggins
> 1965 Triumph TR4A
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> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2021 19:48:03 -0500
> From: David Friedlander<forzion7@gmail.com>
> To: Guy Huggins<guy.huggins@icloud.com>
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> Guy;
>
> If it's the same diameter as the pulley on the TR3A then
> the diameter is 5.5 inches. Ten degrees BTDC can be
> marked at 1/2" from the pulley TDC timing mark.
>
> Dave
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> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 4:43 PM Guy Huggins<guy.huggins@icloud.com>  wrote:
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>> Listers,
>>
>> Does anyone know the dimensions of the two-part crankshaft pulley for the
>> TR4A?
>> Mine is attached, and my calipers won?t open enough to measure the
>> diameter.
>>
>> I am looking to determine the circumference, in order to make timing marks
>> for when I start putting everything back together after the head gasket
>> work.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Guy D. Huggins
>> 1965 Triumph TR4A
>> CTC 63569LO
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;">Hi
all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;">Finally
after
40 years driving I am getting the sills &amp; floors on my TR2
replaced,
currently at the panel beaters having them welded in. So my question
is:-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;">How
to deal
with the dirt &amp; moisture trap made by the "box" enclosed by the
bulkhead &amp; sealing plate at the front, the 'A' pillar at the back,
the sill
&amp; front guard (fender in USA) at the bottom, &amp; the rear of the
inner guard etc at the top. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;">We
all know
that the factory sealing plate &amp; rubber seals at the front are
meant to
stop the road dirt &amp; moisture getting in, but don't do it very
well. Then when
it rains the water comes in between the side of the bonnet (hood in
USA) &amp;
the front guards onto the top of the inner guard (fender), plus at the
rear end
of the bonnet it runs down from the gutter at the front of the bulkhead
into
the gap at the rear of the inner guard which is cleverly angled so that
all this
water drips off the back end into the above mentioned "box" enclosure
where it combines with the road dirt etc and eventually rots out the
front of the
sill and the side kick panel in the cockpit &amp; then the front of the
floors.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;">General
consensus
seem to be that we should remove the bulkhead sealing plates each year
and
clean out all this accumulated 'crud' and dry out this area before
replacing
them. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;">Has
anyone
come up with a way of draining this area so it doesn't stay 
damp?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;">What
is the consensus
on the best treatment<span style="">&nbsp; </span>of this front part
of the sill and bottom of the inner side of the guard etc. to stop rust
attacking it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;">All
suggestions
gratefully received.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 
115%;">cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;">stay
safe,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;">Alan
<span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>TS3612<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 
115%;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">AW &amp; LJ Dunscombe
New Zealand


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Subject: [TR] TR4A Pulley Dimensions

Listers,

Does anyone know the dimensions of the two-part crankshaft pulley for the TR4A?
Mine is attached, and my calipers won?t open enough to measure the diameter.

I am looking to determine the circumference, in order to make timing marks for 
when I start putting everything back together after the head gasket work.


Cheers,

Guy D. Huggins
1965 Triumph TR4A
CTC 63569LO





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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2021 19:48:03 -0500
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Guy;

If it's the same diameter as the pulley on the TR3A then
the diameter is 5.5 inches. Ten degrees BTDC can be
marked at 1/2" from the pulley TDC timing mark.

Dave


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Does anyone know the dimensions of the two-part crankshaft pulley for the
TR4A?
Mine is attached, and my calipers won?t open enough to measure the
diameter.

I am looking to determine the circumference, in order to make timing marks
for when I start putting everything back together after the head gasket
work.


Cheers,

Guy D. Huggins
1965 Triumph TR4A
CTC 63569LO



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