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Well, I'm not sure about the rear axle, but I'm glad I went to your
Flickr album! You've done a marvelous job, that's a gorgeous car!
I'm more familiar with the later axle, I suspect that the bearing is
what's holding the axle into the housing. You could try sticking the
hub back on, put a nut on the end and bash on the hub with a rubber
mallet or something that won't hurt the hub - maybe a piece of wood and
a larger hammer? This is JUST A GUESS, I'm looking forward to other
replies.
Regards, Tony Drews
On 9/2/2021 6:12 PM, David Gunn wrote:
> Hi All - Thanks for the suggestions, they are all greatly
> appreciated. I liberally sprayed the offending drum with penetrating
> oil. Due to the smoke and ash from the wildfires, I couldn't get back
> out to the shop for a couple of days. But, when I did, it popped
> right off! I didn't see any signs of massive rust, so I am guessing
> that it was just old oil, grease and misc road grime. I will clean
> everything real well before I put it back together.
>
> I then set about removing the axle shafts, as per the Service
> Instruction Manual for the TR2. (3d Edition, 6th printing). I am also
> using the Haynes book for Triumphs. I have the earlier style of TR2
> axle. One interesting item to note: when removing the nut and washer
> on the left side, I found 3 shims behind the washer. They were made
> from a Budweiser can, so I know that they are not original. Emoji Not
> sure why, but I will probably put them back. The left side is not the
> side that was originally leaking.
>
> I dismantled the brakes, took out the 4 bolts holding the hub to the
> axle casing, and expected to be able to just pull the axle shaft out,
> as the manual says. But nothing budged. I then pounded a thin paint
> scraper between the hub and axle casing. That was the only place that
> I could see where it could come apart. It did, and I removed the hub,
> but no axle shaft. The oil seal came out with the hub, but the wheel
> bearings are still attached somehow. The axle shaft does spin, and
> does push in and pull out about 1/4 inch, or less.. I thought the the
> bearing and seal and hub needed to be pressed onto the axle shaft.
>
> I don't remember the specifics of replacing the oil seals previously.Â
> Evidently, I ran into the same problem before, just installed the oil
> seals, and then reassembled.
>
> In looking at the oil seal I just removed, it looks like part of it
> has never seen any oil. It is completely dry. Yes, I have kept the
> rear end full, and have greased the grease fitting. Also, it does
> appear that the wheel bearings have been replaced before (not by me),
> as they are marked "made in the USA"Â The reason I wanted to take the
> axle shaft out is twofold:Â 1)Â I like to follow instructions, and
> that's what the manual said, and 2) I wanted to look at the wheel bearing.
>
> So, what am I doing wrong? Why doesn't the axle shaft just slide out,
> as the manual says? What am I missing?
>
> I have taken some pictures, and have uploaded them to my Flickr site,
> in an album labeled "TR2". They are at the end of the album. I also
> included pictures of the rear axle drawings and instructions from the
> manual, plus "Service Diagnosis" (Troubleshooting).. The breather is,
> and has been, clean.
>
> The link to that album is: TR2
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dgunn/albums/72157602881332130/page1>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> TR2
>
> Explore this photo album by David on Flickr!
>
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dgunn/albums/72157602881332130/page1>
>
> I tried to take pictures of everything, including the axle shaft
> "pulled out" and "pushed in". There's also pictures of the Bud shims.
>
> I have not attempted to take the right side off. Just in case I am
> doing something wrong; although, it is at the point where the axle
> shaft should just pull out, and it doesn't.
>
> A last (for now) interesting note. I acquired the TR2 from a friend
> about 1985. I drove it for about a year, then parked it and raised
> kids. I started my restoration about 2002, and finished a couple of
> years later. As I said before, it has been parked again since about
> 2011. Of it's 67 year life, I have owned it for about 36 years, but
> certainly not driving it.
>
> Thank you, in advance, for your help,
>
> David
>
>
>
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<p>Well, I'm not sure about the rear axle, but I'm glad I went to
your Flickr album! You've done a marvelous job, that's a gorgeous
car!</p>
<p>I'm more familiar with the later axle, I suspect that the bearing
is what's holding the axle into the housing. You could try
sticking the hub back on, put a nut on the end and bash on the hub
with a rubber mallet or something that won't hurt the hub - maybe
a piece of wood and a larger hammer? This is JUST A GUESS, I'm
looking forward to other replies.</p>
<p>Regards, Tony Drews<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/2/2021 6:12 PM, David Gunn wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Hi All - Thanks for the
suggestions, they are all greatly appreciated. I liberally
sprayed the offending drum with penetrating oil. Due to the
smoke and ash from the wildfires, I couldn't get back out to
the shop for a couple of days. But, when I did, it popped
right off! I didn't see any signs of massive rust, so I am
guessing that it was just old oil, grease and misc road
grime. I will clean everything real well before I put it back
together.</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I then set about removing the
axle shafts, as per the Service Instruction Manual for the
TR2. (3d Edition, 6th printing). I am also using the Haynes
book for Triumphs. I have the earlier style of TR2 axle. One
interesting item to note:Â when removing the nut and washer on
the left side, I found 3 shims behind the washer. They were
made from a Budweiser can, so I know that they are not
original. <img title="Emoji" alt="Emoji"
class="yahoo-emoji-wrapper"
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put them back. The left side is not the side that was
originally leaking.<br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I dismantled the brakes, took
out the 4 bolts holding the hub to the axle casing, and
expected to be able to just pull the axle shaft out, as the
manual says. But nothing budged. I then pounded a thin paint
scraper between the hub and axle casing. That was the only
place that I could see where it could come apart. It did, and
I removed the hub, but no axle shaft. The oil seal came out
with the hub, but the wheel bearings are still attached
somehow. The axle shaft does spin, and does push in and pull
out about 1/4 inch, or less.. I thought the the bearing and
seal and hub needed to be pressed onto the axle shaft.</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I don't remember the
specifics of replacing the oil seals previously. Evidently, I
ran into the same problem before, just installed the oil
seals, and then reassembled.</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">In looking at the oil seal I
just removed, it looks like part of it has never seen any
oil. It is completely dry. Yes, I have kept the rear end
full, and have greased the grease fitting. Also, it does
appear that the wheel bearings have been replaced before (not
by me), as they are marked "made in the USA"Â The reason I
wanted to take the axle shaft out is twofold:Â 1)Â I like to
follow instructions, and that's what the manual said, and 2) I
wanted to look at the wheel bearing.</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">So, what am I doing wrong?
Why doesn't the axle shaft just slide out, as the manual
says? What am I missing?</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I have taken some pictures,
and have uploaded them to my Flickr site, in an album labeled
"TR2". They are at the end of the album. I also included
pictures of the rear axle drawings and instructions from the
manual, plus "Service Diagnosis" (Troubleshooting).. The
breather is, and has been, clean.<br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I tried to take pictures of
everything, including the axle shaft "pulled out" and "pushed
in". There's also pictures of the Bud shims.</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I have not attempted to take
the right side off. Just in case I am doing something wrong;
although, it is at the point where the axle shaft should just
pull out, and it doesn't.</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">A last (for now) interesting
note. I acquired the TR2 from a friend about 1985. I drove
it for about a year, then parked it and raised kids. I
started my restoration about 2002, and finished a couple of
years later. As I said before, it has been parked again since
about 2011. Of it's 67 year life, I have owned it for about
36 years, but certainly not driving it.<br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Thank you, in advance, for
your help,</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br>
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