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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this directly. I know somebody said
drum brakes can self engage. I believe they actually tend to do this when
they are too loose and they catch and wedge, have you adjusted the brakes?,
sorry if this was mentioned and I missed it.
I had a similar head scratcher issue on my old Austin Healey and strangely
enough it went away when I did a thorough check and adjustment of the
parking brake, I know it is the brake adjuster that should determine the
position of the shoes when the parking brake is at rest, but nevertheless
that is when my problem went away.
Greg Lemon
TR250
On Tue, Apr 27, 2021, 5:30 PM <jpaynepbr@cox.net> wrote:
> Frank,
>
>
>
> I=E2=80=99d start with the hose, old ones can flex internally and collaps=
e.
>
>
>
> Alternatively, your M. Cylinder may have failed and may not be allowing
> the return of fluid on release, I had this happen on a TR6 with one of
> those recalled TRW master cylinders about 10 years ago.
>
>
>
> Ma
>
>
>
> On cars with an adjustable length master cylinder rod, the rod can be too
> long, preventing the return of fluid =E2=80=93 had this happen on Jag XK=
=E2=80=99s.
> Getting the rod adjusted perfectly was a PITA.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Frank
> Fisher
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:15 PM
> *To:* Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com>
> *Cc:* Triumphs List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] locking brake TR3
>
>
>
> i try not to use the brakes, but occasionally some bone head gets in the
> way
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021, 12:20:07 PM PDT, Michael Marr <
> mmarr@albiontechnical.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Then I would look at the hose on that side, as Keith Stewart suggested.
>
>
>
> I didn=E2=80=99t think you used the brakes, anyway!
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2021, at 14:16, Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
>
> thanks
>
> i took the drum off 2 weekends ago.
>
> did not see any leakage.
>
> everything looked ok. springs in place, little taby things that hold the
> shoes in place still there.
>
> re-set the adjustment when i put things back.
>
>
>
> ughhhh.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021, 12:11:49 PM PDT, Michael Marr <
> mmarr@albiontechnical.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Frank:
>
>
>
> This happened to me once. It turned out that I had a leaking brake
> cylinder and the friction material on the shoes had become saturated with
> brake fluid. I was surprised to learn that this will cause the shoes to
> lock onto the drum. Check your master cylinder reservoir to see if you a=
re
> losing fluid, then check the brake cylinder on the side that=E2=80=99s lo=
cking, for
> signs of leakage.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> =E2=80=9CCome on you Irons!=E2=80=9D
>
>
>
> Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.
>
> Albion Technical Services
>
> W5918 Hackbarth Rd
>
> Fort Atkinson, WI 53538
>
>
>
> Cell: 630-202-0065
>
> Email: mmarr@albiontechnical.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Frank
> Fisher
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 27, 2021 12:02 PM
> *To:* Triumphs List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [TR] locking brake TR3
>
>
>
> my rear left brake keeps locking up on me.
>
> took the drum off last weekend and all looked good.
>
> just took it for a run and ,,,,,,ugh. still locks up
>
> any thoughts on where to look next?
>
>
>
> Frank
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I don't know if anyone has mentioned this directly.=
=C2=A0 I know somebody said drum brakes can self engage.=C2=A0 I believe th=
ey actually tend to do this when they are too loose and they catch and wedg=
e, have you adjusted the brakes?, sorry if this was mentioned and I missed =
it.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I had a similar head scrat=
cher issue on my old Austin Healey and strangely enough it went away when I=
did a thorough check and adjustment of the parking brake, I know it is the=
brake adjuster that should determine the position of the shoes when the pa=
rking brake is at rest, but nevertheless that is when my problem went away.=
</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon</div><div di=
r=3D"auto">TR250<br><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div=
></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Tue, Apr 27, 2021, 5:30 PM <<a href=3D"mailto:jpaynepbr@cox.n=
et">jpaynepbr@cox.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72" style=3D"word-wrap=
:break-word"><div class=3D"m_-401192771192324344WordSection1"><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">Frank,<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99d start with the hose, old ones can =
flex internally and collapse.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Alternatively, your M. Cylinder m=
ay have failed and may not be allowing the return of fluid on release, =C2=
=A0I had this happen on a TR6 with one of those recalled TRW master cylinde=
rs about 10 years ago.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ma<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On cars with an adjusta=
ble length master cylinder rod, the rod can be too long, preventing the ret=
urn of fluid =E2=80=93 had this happen on Jag XK=E2=80=99s.=C2=A0 Getting t=
he rod adjusted perfectly was a PITA.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><=
div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">=
triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Frank Fisher<br=
><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> Michael Marr &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer">mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs List <=
<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefer=
rer">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] locking br=
ake TR3<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">i try not to use the brakes, b=
ut occasionally some bone head gets in the way<u></u><u></u></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Helvetica",sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div></div=
><div id=3D"m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayahoo_quoted_0240455756"><div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
;Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">On Tuesday, April 27, 2021, 12:2=
0:07 PM PDT, Michael Marr <<a href=3D"mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com"; =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a>> wrot=
e: <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26=
282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;co=
lor:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><div id=3D"m_-401192=
771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#2=
6282a">Then I would look at the hose on that side, as Keith Stewart suggest=
ed.=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26=
282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;co=
lor:#26282a">I didn=E2=80=99t think you used the brakes, anyway!<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bott=
om:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica"=
;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">Mike<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica"=
,sans-serif;color:#26282a">Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u></u></span></p></di=
v><div><div id=3D"m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795yqtfd93409"><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bott=
om:5.0pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26=
282a">On Apr 27, 2021, at 14:16, Frank Fisher <<a href=3D"mailto:yellowt=
r3@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">yellowtr3@yahoo.com</a>&=
gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"m_-4=
01192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795yqtfd45666"><blockquote style=3D"ma=
rgin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#26282=
a">=EF=BB=BF</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvet=
ica",sans-serif;color:#26282a"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helve=
tica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">thanks<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">i took the drum off 2 weekends =
ago.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26=
282a">did not see any leakage.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica&=
quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">everything looked ok. springs in place, lit=
tle taby things that hold the shoes in place still there.<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">re-set the adjust=
ment when i put things back.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica&quo=
t;,sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvet=
ica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">ughhhh.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></span></p></div></div><div id=3D"m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543=
907795ydp10320ddbyahoo_quoted_9837728254"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-seri=
f;color:#26282a">On Tuesday, April 27, 2021, 12:11:49 PM PDT, Michael Marr =
<<a href=3D"mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"n=
oreferrer">mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a>> wrote: <u></u><u></u></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></=
span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></span></p></div><div><div id=3D"m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv154=
3907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396"><div><div><p class=3D"m_-40119277119232434=
4ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a"=
>Frank:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601a=
yiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">=C2=A0<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv15439077=
95ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">This happened to me o=
nce.=C2=A0 It turned out that I had a leaking brake cylinder and the fricti=
on material on the shoes had become saturated with brake fluid.=C2=A0 I was=
surprised to learn that this will cause the shoes to lock onto the drum.=
=C2=A0 Check your master cylinder reservoir to see if you are losing fluid,=
then check the brake cylinder on the side that=E2=80=99s locking, for sign=
s of leakage.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"m_-401192771192324344ydpa=
15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">=C2=
=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1=
543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">Regards,<u></u=
><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795=
ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddb=
yiv0028603396msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"H=
elvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">Mike<u></u><u></u></span></p><p cl=
ass=3D"m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396=
msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica"=
;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">=E2=80=9CCome on you Irons!=E2=80=9D<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p><p class=3D"m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10=
320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
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yiv0028603396msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"H=
elvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.<u></u>=
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t;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">Email:=C2=A0 =
<a href=3D"mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noref=
errer">mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=
=3D"m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396mso=
normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",s=
ans-serif;color:#26282a">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><div id=3D"m_-40119=
2771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396yqt38693"><div>=
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in"><p class=3D"m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320dd=
byiv0028603396msonormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">From:</span></b><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
a"> Triumphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>O=
n Behalf Of </b>Frank Fisher<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 27, 2021 12:02 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Triumphs List <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br>=
<b>Subject:</b> [TR] locking brake TR3<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>=
<p class=3D"m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv00286=
03396msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica=
",sans-serif;color:#26282a">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><=
p class=3D"m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv002860=
3396msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica&=
quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">my rear left brake keeps locking up on me.<=
/span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",san=
s-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"m_-4=
01192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-seri=
f;color:#26282a">took the drum off last weekend and all looked good.</span>=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-seri=
f;color:#26282a"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"m_-4011927=
71192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;colo=
r:#26282a">just took it for a run and ,,,,,,ugh. still locks up</span><span=
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;col=
or:#26282a"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"m_-401192771192=
324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26=
282a">any thoughts on where to look next?</span><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u><u>=
</u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv154=
3907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;f=
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le=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#=
26282a">Frank</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helve=
tica",sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><=
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