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It is actually about both! I am learning a lot and hope to hear from =
more people!!!
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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jerry Van =
Vlack
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 8:38 AM
To: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>; Randy and Valerie DeRuiter =
<deruiterville@hotmail.com>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] rear seal
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Bill I think this discussion is about the diff seal, not the rear engine =
seal.=20
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From: bill beecher=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 10:28 PM
To: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter=20
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [TR] rear seal
=20
Just finished that job using the Viton seal from Joe Alexander and =
guidance from Kas Kastner=E2=80=99s book. So far no leak at the rear, =
=F0=9F=A4=9E. Follow the steps, you will succeed. =20
Bill B
TS30800L
=20
#dontkillgrandma
On Nov 24, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter =
<deruiterville@hotmail.com> wrote:
=EF=BB=BF=20
Dave-
=20
I've done this a few times, I think the hardest part of the job is =
getting the old seal out. Pick your favorite method, but I've settled =
on using a tool I bought from Harbor Freight a couple of years ago which =
has worked well as a seal puller.
=20
Basic steps:
=20
1) Unbolt driveshaft
2) Remove cotter pin from pinion castle nut=20
3) Hold flange (I bolt on a piece of angle iron to hold the flange =
steady, and remove the castle nut.
4) Pull the old seal.
=20
The attached picture shows what I use, the hook catches the edge of the =
seal and I hit the puller with a hammer to jar the seal loose. =20
=20
5) Inspect the flange seal surface, and if its badly ridged consider =
putting on a repair sleeve (99149 National, SKF or KWK99149 Timken)
6) Smear the new seal with something appropriate (I've used Permatex 2), =
and drive the new seal back in using a large pipe or socket. =20
7 Install the flange and castle nut with new cotter pin. Since there =
is no collapsible spacer to worry about, the flange just gets torqued =
back to factory settings (I think the factory manual says 85-100 ftlbs )
=20
Randy=20
=20
=20
=20
_____ =20
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of dave =
<dave@ranteer.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 7:57 PM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] rear seal=20
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Looking for advice from people who have installed the rear seal on a =
TR3/4/4a engine.
=20
Mine leaks a lot and I=E2=80=99d like to at least slow it down.
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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>It is actually about =
both!=C2=A0 I am learning a lot and hope to hear from more =
people!!!<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
<triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jerry Van =
Vlack<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 25, 2020 8:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>; Randy and Valerie DeRuiter =
<deruiterville@hotmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> =
triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] rear =
seal<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Bill I =
think this discussion is about the diff seal, not the rear engine seal. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>&n=
bsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Fr=
om:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> =
bill beecher <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Se=
nt:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> =
Tuesday, November 24, 2020 10:28 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>To=
:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> =
Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Cc=
:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> =
triumphs@autox.team.net <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Su=
bject:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> =
Re: [TR] rear seal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Just finished that job using the =
Viton seal from Joe Alexander and guidance from Kas Kastner=E2=80=99s =
book. So far no leak at the rear, </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI =
Emoji",sans-serif;color:black'>🤞</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>. Follow the steps, you =
will succeed. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Bill =
B<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>TS30800L<o:p></o:p></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>#dontkillgrandma<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><br>On Nov 24, 2020, at 9:06 PM, =
Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <deruiterville@hotmail.com> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>=EF=BB=BF =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Dave-<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I've done this a few times, I =
think the hardest part of the job is getting the old seal out. =
Pick your favorite method, but I've settled on using a tool I bought =
from Harbor Freight a couple of years ago which has worked well as a =
seal puller.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Basic =
steps:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>1) Unbolt =
driveshaft<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>2) Remove cotter pin from pinion =
castle nut <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>3) Hold flange (I bolt on a piece =
of angle iron to hold the flange steady, and remove the castle =
nut.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>4) Pull the old =
seal.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The attached picture shows what I =
use, the hook catches the edge of the seal and I hit the puller with a =
hammer to jar the seal loose. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>5) Inspect the flange seal =
surface, and if its badly ridged consider putting on a repair sleeve =
(99149 National, SKF or KWK99149 =
Timken)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>6) Smear the new seal with =
something appropriate (I've used Permatex 2), and drive the new seal =
back in using a large pipe or socket. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>7 Install the flange and =
castle nut with new cotter pin. Since there is no collapsible =
spacer to worry about, the flange just gets torqued back to factory =
settings (I think the factory manual says 85-100 ftlbs =
)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Randy =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><hr size=3D2 width=3D"98%" =
align=3Dcenter></span></div><div id=3DdivRplyFwdMsg><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'color:black'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'color:black'> Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> =
on behalf of dave <dave@ranteer.com><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, =
November 24, 2020 7:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> triumphs@autox.team.net =
<triumphs@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] rear =
seal</span><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
</div><div><div><p class=3Dxmsonormal style=3D'margin:0in'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Looking for advice from people who have installed =
the rear seal on a TR3/4/4a engine.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal style=3D'margin:0in'><span =
style=3D'color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal =
style=3D'margin:0in'><span style=3D'color:black'>Mine leaks a lot and =
I=E2=80=99d like to at least slow it =
down.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><thumbnail_6C3BD05F-B527-4528-8=
564-E036B3B50ACC.jpg><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
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