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Re: [TR] Sunbeam

To: Ann Carletta <anncarletta@yahoo.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net, lherault@verizon.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Sunbeam
From: JOE CURRY <spitlist@cox.net>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 10:23:36 -0700 (MST)
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There are major differences between the Alpine and the Tiger.  The metalwork 
inside the engine compartment is massively different to accommodate the V8 
engine and if memory serves (it has been 52 years since I converted an Alpine 
to a Tiger) the electrical system of the Alpine is 6 volt whereas the Tiger is 
12 Volt.  Also, the suspension is significantly different with the Tiger having 
a Panhard bar in the rear.

That said, there are a great many cars posing as Tigers that started life as an 
Alpine.  Many are virtually indistinguishable from a real Tiger and many are 
just superficial.  The original VIN number will reveal the difference.

> On November 21, 2020 at 5:04 PM Ann Carletta <anncarletta@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>      
>     Hi Ron,
> 
>     Is he sure it's not an Sunbeam Alpine?  I drove a '67 Alpine.  Same 
> bodies, but Tiger had the V8 engine.  There's also a difference between MKI 
> and II.  
> 
>     Comparing Sunbeam Tigers: Mk I vs. Mk II | Articles | Classic Motorsports 
> https://classicmotorsports.com/articles/comparing-sunbeam-tigers-mk-i-vs-mk-ii/
> 
>               
>      
>               
>     Comparing Sunbeam Tigers: Mk I vs. Mk II | Articles | Classic Motorsports
> 
>     The Sunbeam Tiger is a great collector car in either generation, an 
> offbeat Cobra alternative.
> 
> 
>     Ann
>     1960 TR3A
>     1965 Daimler V8 2.5L
>     2012 Jaguar, XF
> 
>     Message: 1
>     Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 16:15:59 -0500
>     From: "Ron L'Herault" <lherault@verizon.net mailto:lherault@verizon.net >
>     To: <triumphs@autox.team.net mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net >
>     Subject: [TR] sumbeam Tiger
>     Message-ID: <002101d6bf82$583154d0$0893fe70$@net>
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>     A friend into American cars has just gotten a Sunbeam.  It's basically I
>     Tiger I believe but the engine has been replaced.  I've sent him the sign
>     up stuff from autox.team.net for Tigers but in the mean time, he's looking
>     for the fuses.  Are they in the engine compartment?  Anyone know?
> 
>     Thanks,
> 
>     RonL
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 




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  <p>There are major differences between the Alpine and the Tiger.&nbsp; The 
metalwork inside the engine compartment is massively different to accommodate 
the V8 engine and if memory serves (it has been 52 years since I converted an 
Alpine to a Tiger) the electrical system of the Alpine is 6 volt whereas the 
Tiger is 12 Volt.&nbsp; Also, the suspension is significantly different with 
the Tiger having a Panhard bar in the rear.<br><br>That said, there are a great 
many cars posing as Tigers that started life as an Alpine.&nbsp; Many are 
virtually indistinguishable from a real Tiger and many are just 
superficial.&nbsp; The original VIN number will reveal the difference.</p>
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     <span style="color: #26282a; font-size: 13px;">Is he sure it's not an 
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     <span style="color: #26282a; font-size: 13px;">Ann</span>
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     <span style="color: #26282a; font-size: 13px;">1960 TR3A</span>
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     <span style="color: #26282a; font-size: 13px;">1965 Daimler V8 2.5L</span>
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     <span style="color: #26282a; font-size: 13px;">2012 Jaguar, XF</span>
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       Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 16:15:59 -0500 
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       From: "Ron L'Herault" &lt;<a href="mailto:lherault@verizon.net"; 
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       Subject: [TR] sumbeam Tiger 
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       A friend into American cars has just gotten a Sunbeam.&nbsp; It's 
basically I 
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       Tiger I believe but the engine has been replaced.&nbsp; I've sent him 
the sign 
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       up stuff from autox.team.net for Tigers but in the mean time, he's 
looking 
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       for the fuses.&nbsp; Are they in the engine compartment?&nbsp; Anyone 
know? 
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       Thanks, 
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       RonL 
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