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Two options -
Looks like Bob needs a new crank (the break will NOT polish out), the
new ARE / Marx / Viton / No machining required seal would be a great
option if the replacement crank still has the scroll.
If the new crank has been machined for the older seal, those kits are
available from Moss or British Parts Northwest. BP Northwest also sells
the bare seal if you already have the modified scroll "housing" aluminum
bits - it's only like $10.
If the crank is undersize for that seal, you can carefully cut a little
off of the parting line to close it up and make sure the spring is 8
inches long (it can be shortened too). The last few of those I bought
already had the spring at 8 inches long.
Here's the bare seal for the "I machined off the scroll" seal setup:
https://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/tr2-tr3-tr4-tr4a/engine-gaskets-seals/rear-seal-for-rear-conversation-cna417k-cna418k.html
Here's the complete kit for that setup:
https://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/tr2-tr3-tr4-tr4a/engine-gaskets-seals/rear-seal-conversion-kit-tr2-to-tr4a.html
Here's the complete kit for the "I'm not going to machine the scroll out
of my crank" setup:
https://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/tr2-tr3-tr4-tr4a/engine-gaskets-seals/rear-seal-conversion-kit-uprated-tr3-to-tr4a.html
Here's just the seal for that setup if you already have the aluminum
housing:
https://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/tr2-tr3-tr4-tr4a/engine-gaskets-seals/seal-rear-for-germany-conversion-kit-only.html
Cheers, Tony Drews
On 11/22/2020 8:05 AM, Geo Hahn wrote:
> Either I or others here do not understand Bob's problem.
>
> Sounds like he has a crank that has previously been machined (scroll
> removed) and is looking for a seal that will work in spite of the
> prior machining making the crank undersized due to incorrect instructions.
>
> Will the MadMarx seal work on such a crank? Maybe and worth checking
> out, but seems unlikely to me.
>
> Sorry, I don't have an answer but hopefully can get the thinking on track.
>
> Geo
>
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 8:39 AM Bob Nogueira <nogera@hotmail.com
>
> Some time in the recent past I thought I read that Moss Motors was
> offering a optional Rear seal for those of us who years ago
> Machined off the scroll to use the â??Newâ?? seal only to find out the
> instructions had  the new surface too small.
> I didnâ??t pay it much attention that crank was in the attic. Well
> With the failure of my current crank I am now forced to use it or
> find another crank.
> Canâ??t find anything on Moss website. Anyone know about the
> replacement seal?
> Thanks
>
>
> Bob Nogueira
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<p>Two options - <br>
</p>
<p>Looks like Bob needs a new crank (the break will NOT polish out),
the new ARE / Marx / Viton / No machining required seal would be a
great option if the replacement crank still has the scroll.</p>
<p>If the new crank has been machined for the older seal, those kits
are available from Moss or British Parts Northwest. BP Northwest
also sells the bare seal if you already have the modified scroll
"housing" aluminum bits - it's only like $10.</p>
<p>If the crank is undersize for that seal, you can carefully cut a
little off of the parting line to close it up and make sure the
spring is 8 inches long (it can be shortened too). The last few
of those I bought already had the spring at 8 inches long.</p>
<p>Here's the bare seal for the "I machined off the scroll" seal
setup:</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/tr2-tr3-tr4-tr4a/engine-gaskets-seals/rear-seal-for-rear-conversation-cna417k-cna418k.html";>https://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/tr2-tr3-tr4-tr4a/engine-gaskets-seals/rear-seal-for-rear-conversation-cna417k-cna418k.html</a>
<br>
</p>
<p>Here's the complete kit for that setup:</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/tr2-tr3-tr4-tr4a/engine-gaskets-seals/rear-seal-conversion-kit-tr2-to-tr4a.html";>https://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/tr2-tr3-tr4-tr4a/engine-gaskets-seals/rear-seal-conversion-kit-tr2-to-tr4a.html</a></p>
<p>Here's the complete kit for the "I'm not going to machine the
scroll out of my crank" setup:</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/tr2-tr3-tr4-tr4a/engine-gaskets-seals/rear-seal-conversion-kit-uprated-tr3-to-tr4a.html";>https://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/tr2-tr3-tr4-tr4a/engine-gaskets-seals/rear-seal-conversion-kit-uprated-tr3-to-tr4a.html</a></p>
<p>Here's just the seal for that setup if you already have the
aluminum housing:</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/tr2-tr3-tr4-tr4a/engine-gaskets-seals/seal-rear-for-germany-conversion-kit-only.html";>https://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/tr2-tr3-tr4-tr4a/engine-gaskets-seals/seal-rear-for-germany-conversion-kit-only.html</a></p>
<p>Cheers, Tony Drews<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/22/2020 8:05 AM, Geo Hahn wrote:<br>
</div>
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cite="mid:CANzE1bGMoCqxRiW0TNoKjansjkoPJm3=nua9ozwB09rKvksP+A@mail.gmail.com">
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<div dir="auto">Either I or others here do not understand Bob's
problem.
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Sounds like he has a crank that has previously
been machined (scroll removed) and is looking for a seal that
will work in spite of the prior machining making the crank
undersized due to incorrect instructions.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Will the MadMarx seal work on such a crank?Â
Maybe and worth checking out, but seems unlikely to me.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Sorry, I don't have an answer but hopefully can
get the thinking on track.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Geo</div>
</div>
<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 8:39 AM
Bob Nogueira <<a href="mailto:nogera@hotmail.com";
moz-do-not-send="true">nogera@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Some time in the recent past I thought I read that Moss
Motors was offering a optional Rear seal for those of us who
years ago Machined off the scroll to use the â??Newâ?? seal only
to find out the instructions had  the new surface too small.
<div>I didnâ??t pay it much attention that crank was in the
attic. Well With the failure of my current crank I am now
forced to use it or find another crank.</div>
<div>Canâ??t find anything on Moss website. Anyone know about
the replacement seal?</div>
<div>Thanks </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><img src="cid:85BCBD52-2819-4533-932D-3B29E229A557"
moz-do-not-send="true"></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Bob Nogueira </div>
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