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Re: [TR] A little story about Coker tires

To: Rochlin Robert <rrochlin@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] A little story about Coker tires
From: Dave <dlhogye@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 10:51:32 -0700
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I believe that Moss lists the allowable runout of a new wire wheel to be .09=
0".  That plus an inner tube, plus bias ply tires, seems to be a recipe for p=
roblems.  Keeping them clean is another problems.  But, nothing looks better=
 than wires on a TR or any classic British sports car.  Panasports or Silver=
stones or something similar with a nice set of radials can be a very good op=
tion. =20
Dave H.=20

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 15, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Rochlin Robert <rrochlin@comcast.net> wrote:
>=20
>       I have Dayton wire wheels on my TR6.  I had the wheels serviced by N=
ew England Wheel Specialty Co. about 3 years back.  After many years of use t=
he wheels were true and did not require any adjustment.  On the advice of th=
e owner I got new tiers from Tire Rack and had them delivered to, and mounte=
d by, New England Wheel Specialty.  I then had a persistent shimmy.  I got t=
he wheels rebalanced a couple of times and finally one tech told me that one=
 tire was out of round.  One thing that did help was using the old fashion r=
im weighs in place if adhesive  weights used on the inside of the rim. After=
 a couple of thousand miles on the new tires the shimmy has become almost im=
perceptible.
>        Fast forward to this summer.  I needed a new set of tires for my t=
ruck and my go mechanic suggested that I get them from Tire Rack. My mechani=
c mounted them and when I got them home notice that the raised lettering was=
 defective on 2 of the tires. That did it for me.  I will now only buy tires=
 and other hard to return items form local dealers.  In both of these cases,=
 if the tires were bought locally, I could have easily returned them and had=
 them replaced.  I  know that getting period correct tires locally is almost=
 impossible, but for me, I=E2=80=99m stricken local even if I have to give u=
p a little originality.
>       BTW, Moss sells an adapter set to balance wire wheels on modern bal=
ancing machines, but the cost is north of $400.00-sometimes close enough is g=
ood enough.=20
>       Best,
>       Bob
>       =E2=80=9972 TR6
>> On Oct 14, 2020, at 6:34 PM, Geo Hahn <ahwahneetr@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> As an alternative -- I installed these in my E-Type wires a year ago and h=
ave driven about 7,000 miles with them:
>>=20
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2N5MTW/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_search_asi=
n_title?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1
>>=20
>> <image.png>
>>=20
>> Wheels are tubeless Dayton wires and the beads were installed well after t=
he tires were mounted (dumped in through the valve stem).
>>=20
>> I did this when I had a niggling vibration in the steering wheel that I c=
ouldn't seem to get rid of - these resolved that.
>>=20
>> Geo
>> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>I believe that Moss lists the allowabl=
e runout of a new wire wheel to be .090". &nbsp;That plus an inner tube, plu=
s bias ply tires, seems to be a recipe for problems. &nbsp;Keeping them clea=
n is another problems. &nbsp;But, nothing looks better than wires on a TR or=
 any classic British sports car. &nbsp;Panasports or Silverstones or somethi=
ng similar with a nice set of radials can be a very good option. &nbsp;</div=
><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Dave H.&nbsp;<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div>=
<div><br>On Oct 15, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Rochlin Robert &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:r=
rochlin@comcast.net">rrochlin@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/h=
tml; charset=3Dutf-8"><font size=3D"4" class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-s=
pan" style=3D"white-space:pre"> </span>I have Dayton wire wheels on my TR6.=
 &nbsp;I had the wheels serviced by New England Wheel Specialty Co. about 3&=
nbsp;years back. &nbsp;After many years of use the wheels were true and did n=
ot require any adjustment. &nbsp;On the advice of the owner I got new tiers f=
rom Tire Rack and had them delivered to, and mounted by, New England Wheel S=
pecialty. &nbsp;I then had a persistent shimmy. &nbsp;I got the wheels rebal=
anced a couple of times and finally one tech told me that one tire was out o=
f round. &nbsp;One thing that did help was using the old fashion rim weighs i=
n place if&nbsp;adhesive &nbsp;weights used on the inside of the rim. After a=
 couple of thousand miles on the new tires the shimmy has become almost&nbsp=
;imperceptible.</font><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D""><span clas=
s=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"> </span>&nbsp;Fast forward t=
o this summer. &nbsp;I needed a new set of tires for my truck and my go mech=
anic suggested that I get them from Tire Rack. My mechanic&nbsp;mounted them=
 and when I got them home notice that the raised lettering was defective on 2=
 of the tires. That did it for me. &nbsp;I will now only buy tires and other=
 hard to return items form local dealers. &nbsp;In both of these cases, if t=
he tires were bought locally, I could have easily returned them and had them=
&nbsp;replaced. &nbsp;I &nbsp;know that getting period&nbsp;correct tires lo=
cally is almost&nbsp;impossible, but&nbsp;for me, I=E2=80=99m&nbsp;stricken&=
nbsp;local even if I have to give up a little originality.</font></div><div c=
lass=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D=
"white-space:pre">      </span>BTW, Moss sells an adapter set to&nbsp;balan=
ce wire wheels on modern&nbsp;balancing machines, but the cost is north of $=
400.00-sometimes close&nbsp;enough is good enough.&nbsp;</font></div><div cl=
ass=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D=
"white-space:pre">      </span>Best,</font></div><div class=3D""><font size=
=3D"4" class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">=
        </span>Bob</font></div><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" 
class=3D""><span cl=
ass=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">       </span>=E2=80=9972 T=
R6<br class=3D""></font><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=
=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D"">On Oct 14, 2020, at 6:34 PM, Geo Hahn &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:ahwahneetr@gmail.com"; class=3D"">ahwahneetr@gmail.com</a>&=
gt; wrote:</font></div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D=
""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"">As=
 an alternative -- I installed these in my E-Type wires a year ago and have d=
riven about 7,000 miles with them:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div=
><div class=3D""><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2N5MTW/ref=
=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D1" class=3D"">https://w=
ww.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2N5MTW/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=3D=
UTF8&amp;psc=3D1</a></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D=
""><span id=3D"cid:ii_kg9yxd0p0">&lt;image.png&gt;</span><br class=3D""></di=
v><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Wheels are tubeless D=
ayton wires and the beads were installed well after the tires were mounted (=
dumped in through the valve stem).</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div=
><div class=3D"">I did this when I had a niggling vibration in the steering w=
heel that I couldn't seem to get rid of - these resolved that.</div><div cla=
ss=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Geo</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;=
</div></div></div>
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