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Ask David Friedlander if it can be done without removing the front =
apron. I think he has just spent several days lying under his TR3 =
trying to get his steering right.
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Andrew Uprichard
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From: Art McEwen <amcewen2@cogeco.ca>=20
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2020 9:35 AM
To: andrew uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net>; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [TR] Tr3a steering tight after rebuild
=20
Further update.=20
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So I think what happened is my final torque down of the end cap on the =
steering box was tighter than my shim bench tests or something settled =
during that and caused binding. When I took it all off and reset =
everything with a McGiver'd way of measuring the float it all seemed =
good on 2nd install. The new bushings/felt in the upper shaft added =
some stiffness too.
=20
BTW some claim this can be done without removing the cowl (and therefore =
presumably the rad), I'd pay good money to see that on youtube....
On 05/17/20, andrew uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net =
(Where is Randall when you need him? =F0=9F=98=8A)
When you say "significantly tighter" is this turning the steering with =
the tie rods connected ? You should be able to turn the steering wheel =
with a finger tip if the car is in the air. You should also be able to =
grab a wheel and take it through its full range of motion (everything =
connected) fairly easily.
The felt at the steering wheel should not be an issue - and, if =
anything, should just be soaked in oil prior to installation. =20
If it is binding, and not eased by loosening the box (and, by inference, =
the pressure on the peg) it is probably related more to the shims at the =
bottom of the box than the bearings themselves. Did you follow the =
method Randall suggests with measuring end-float and shimming =
appropriately?
Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan
-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net =
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: [TR] Tr3a steering tight after rebuild
Re-installed my rebuilt steering box and, even though it felt fine on =
the bench, back in the car the steering is significantly tighter. Not =
quite a parking lot 3-point turn level of effort but well beyond finger =
tip effort. And this is while still up on jacks with the set screw =
backed right off. I loosened off the shim cover bolts thinking I was =
too tight but no difference. It doesn't feel like it's binding at any =
point of the travel, it's tight lock to lock. I waited until the shaft =
was reassembled before tightening the box attachment bolts so the box =
would align to the shaft, not vice versa.
Could this really all be down to resistance from the 2 new bearings in =
the split shaft (plenty of grease added) and the new felt at the =
steering wheel? =20
Also should the upper felt be greased/oiled?
Thanks,
Art. 60tr
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs =
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Ask David =
Friedlander if=C2=A0 it can be done without removing the front =
apron.=C2=A0 I think he has just spent several days lying under his TR3 =
trying to get his steering right.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
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Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Andrew Uprichard<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Art McEwen =
<amcewen2@cogeco.ca> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 22, 2020 9:35 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> andrew uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net>; =
triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [TR] Tr3a steering tight =
after rebuild<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Further =
update. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So I think what happened is my final torque down of =
the end cap on the steering box was tighter than my shim bench tests or =
something settled during that and caused binding. When I =
took it all off and reset everything with a McGiver'd way of measuring =
the float it all seemed good on 2nd install. The new =
bushings/felt in the upper shaft added some stiffness =
too.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>BTW some claim this can be done without removing the =
cowl (and therefore presumably the rad), I'd pay good money to see that =
on youtube....<br><br>On 05/17/20, <b>andrew uprichard </b><<a =
href=3D"mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net";>auprichard@uprichard.net</a>>=
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
blue 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
10.0pt;margin-left:0in;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>(Where is Randall when =
you need him? <span style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI =
Emoji",sans-serif'>😊</span>)<br><br>When you say =
"significantly tighter" is this turning the steering with the =
tie rods connected ? You should be able to turn the steering wheel with =
a finger tip if the car is in the air. You should also be able to =
grab a wheel and take it through its full range of motion (everything =
connected) fairly easily.<br><br>The felt at the steering wheel should =
not be an issue - and, if anything, should just be soaked in oil prior =
to installation. <br><br>If it is binding, and not eased by =
loosening the box (and, by inference, the pressure on the peg) it is =
probably related more to the shims at the bottom of the box than the =
bearings themselves. Did you follow the method Randall suggests =
with measuring end-float and shimming appropriately?<br><br>Andrew =
Uprichard<br>Jackson, Michigan<br><br>-----Original =
Message-----<br>From: Triumphs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>triumphs-bounces@autox.te=
am.net</a>> On Behalf Of Art McEwen<br>Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 =
2:11 PM<br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>Su=
bject: [TR] Tr3a steering tight after rebuild<br><br>Re-installed my =
rebuilt steering box and, even though it felt fine on the bench, back in =
the car the steering is significantly tighter. Not quite a parking =
lot 3-point turn level of effort but well beyond finger tip =
effort. And this is while still up on jacks with the set screw =
backed right off. I loosened off the shim cover bolts thinking I =
was too tight but no difference. It doesn't feel like it's binding =
at any point of the travel, it's tight lock to lock. I waited =
until the shaft was reassembled before tightening the box attachment =
bolts so the box would align to the shaft, not vice versa.<br><br>Could =
this really all be down to resistance from the 2 new bearings in the =
split shaft (plenty of grease added) and the new felt at the steering =
wheel? <br><br>Also should the upper felt be =
greased/oiled?<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Art. 60tr<br>** <a =
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