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A friend of mine used to wrench on an MG Midget that was raced on a road c=
ourse.=C2=A0 He said they filled the shocks with STP.=20
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-----Original Message-----
From: dave <dave@ranteer.com>
To: triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Sep 5, 2019 12:47 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs
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will definitely make a difference.=C2=A0 I believe (but could be wrong) th=
at standard shock oil is 20w?=C2=A0 years ago I had a car where the shocks =
were shot.=C2=A0 I put 90 wt gear oil in just for grins.=C2=A0 Suspension w=
as rock hard until it leaked out again. =C2=A0From: Triumphs <triumphs-boun=
ces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of DAVID MASSEY
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 9:58 AM
To: terryrs@comcast.net; gdhuggins@genfiniti.com; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs =C2=A0I did not try ch=
anging the fluid that was put in by the rebuilder.=C2=A0 It was probably st=
andard fork oil.=C2=A0 A heavier oil may have made the difference but I nev=
er got a roundtuit. =C2=A0Dave =C2=A0 =C2=A0-----Original Message-----
From: TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>; gdhuggins <gdhuggins@genfiniti.com>;=
triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Sep 5, 2019 9:32 am
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road SpringsHi, Dave.=C2=A0 Just cu=
rious.=C2=A0 What was the fluid you ran in the rebuilt shocks that didn't d=
ampen as well as you'd like?=C2=A0 And what do you recommend?=C2=A0 (I've b=
een using Harley fork fluid, seems to work fine enough but maybe could be b=
etter.)
On September 2, 2019 at 6:26 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote: I =
agree with Mark and Jerry.=C2=A0 Since you have shocks on order put those i=
n first and then make a determination as to whether you need new springs or=
not. =C2=A0BTW, I sent off a set of shocks to Apple for the "Heavy Duty" r=
ebuild and was quite disappointed in the result.=C2=A0 The damping was inad=
equate.=C2=A0 This was many years ago and they may have sorted this out sin=
ce then.=C2=A0 I have more recently (like last year) had a pair (may have b=
een the same pair) reworked by World Wide Auto Parts in Madison (http://www=
.nosimport.com/) with much better results.=C2=A0 Peter up there knows Trium=
phs. =C2=A0Dave =C2=A0 =C2=A0-----Original Message-----=20
From: G.D. Huggins <gdhuggins@genfiniti.com>=20
To: Triumph Mailing List <triumphs@autox.team.net>=20
Sent: Sun, Sep 1, 2019 9:45 pm=20
Subject: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs All, =C2=A0After almost e=
ight years of driving bliss, with just under 18K miles, it's time to replac=
e what I suspect are the original road springs. The car has gotten way too =
bouncy, especially in the rear.=C2=A0 Take a curve on a rough road, and it =
rear steers something awful. losing its contact with the road, as if the sp=
ring is not forcing the wheel back down quickly enough. As far as shocks go=
, I=E2=80=99ve got Spax adjustable up front, and just ordered some heavy du=
ty Armstrongs from Apple Hydraulics for the rear. =C2=A0I=E2=80=99ve gotte=
n into some research, and everything seems to be pointing toward three grad=
es of stiffness; original, uprated and competition. I am leaning toward the=
=E2=80=9Cuprated=E2=80=9D variety to stiffen the ride, but I want to keep =
stock height to not effect wheel camber. =C2=A0Any experienced-based sugge=
stions? =C2=A0Thanks in advance. =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cheers, =C2=A0Guy D. Huggi=
ns 1965 Triumph TR4A CTC 63569LO =C2=A0Online project diary at http://www.=
genfiniti.com/triumph =C2=A0 =C2=A0** triumphs@autox.team.net **=20
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive=
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<div> <font size=3D"3">A friend of mine used to wrench on an MG Midget that=
was raced on a road course. He said they filled the shocks with STP.=
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<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
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Original Message-----<br>
From: dave <dave@ranteer.com><br>
To: triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Thu, Sep 5, 2019 12:47 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal">Type of shock oil will definitely mak=
e a difference. I believe (but could be wrong) that standard shock oi=
l is 20w? years ago I had a car where the shocks were shot. I p=
ut 90 wt gear oil in just for grins. Suspension was rock hard until i=
t leaked out again.</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv2555572415yqt9569977822" id=3D"yiv2555572415yqt52662">
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs <triumphs-bo=
unces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>DAVID MASSEY<br clear=3D"none"=
><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 5, 2019 9:58 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:<=
/b> terryrs@comcast.net; gdhuggins@genfiniti.com; triumphs@autox.team.net<b=
r clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Spring=
s</div>
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<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">I d=
id not try changing the fluid that was put in by the rebuilder. It wa=
s probably standard fork oil. A heavier oil may have made the differe=
nce but I never got a roundtuit.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">Dave </span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">=
</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">F=
rom: TERRY SMITH <<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:terryrs@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank" removedlink__788e137f-b06=
e-49f7-a2f8-655eb4e9ad50__href=3D"mailto:terryrs@comcast.net";>terryrs@comca=
st.net</a>><br clear=3D"none">To: DAVID MASSEY <<a rel=3D"noopener no=
referrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; target=3D"_b=
lank" removedlink__788e137f-b06e-49f7-a2f8-655eb4e9ad50__href=3D"mailto:dav=
e1massey@cs.com">dave1massey@cs.com</a>>; gdhuggins <<a rel=3D"noopen=
er noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:gdhuggins@genfiniti.com"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank" removedlink__788e137f-b06e-49f7-a2f8-655eb4e9ad50__href=3D"=
mailto:gdhuggins@genfiniti.com";>gdhuggins@genfiniti.com</a>>; triumphs &=
lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:triumphs=
@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" removedlink__788e137f-b06e-49f7-a2f8-655=
eb4e9ad50__href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net<=
/a>><br clear=3D"none">Sent: Thu, Sep 5, 2019 9:32 am<br clear=3D"none">=
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs</span></div>
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<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Hi,=
Dave. Just curious. What was the fluid you ran in the rebuilt =
shocks that didn't dampen as well as you'd like? And what do you reco=
mmend? (I've been using Harley fork fluid, seems to work fine enough =
but maybe could be better.)</span></div>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">On September 2, 2019 at 6:26 AM DAVID MASSEY &=
lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:dave1mas=
sey@cs.com" target=3D"_blank" removedlink__788e137f-b06e-49f7-a2f8-655eb4e9=
ad50__href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com";>dave1massey@cs.com</a>> wrote: =
</span></div>
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<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">I a=
gree with Mark and Jerry. Since you have shocks on order put those in=
first and then make a determination as to whether you need new springs or =
not.</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">BTW=
, I sent off a set of shocks to Apple for the "Heavy Duty" rebuild and was =
quite disappointed in the result. The damping was inadequate. T=
his was many years ago and they may have sorted this out since then. =
I have more recently (like last year) had a pair (may have been the same pa=
ir) reworked by World Wide Auto Parts in Madison (<a rel=3D"noopener norefe=
rrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" removedlink__788e137f-b06e-49f7-a2f8=
-655eb4e9ad50__href=3D"http://www.nosimport.com/";>http://www.nosimport.com/=
</a>) with much better results. Peter up there knows Triumphs.</span>=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;">Dave </span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">=
</span></div>
</div>
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bsp;</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">-----Original Message----- <br clear=3D"none">=
From: G.D. Huggins <<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailt=
o=3D"mailto:gdhuggins@genfiniti.com"; target=3D"_blank" removedlink__788e137=
f-b06e-49f7-a2f8-655eb4e9ad50__href=3D"mailto:gdhuggins@genfiniti.com";>gdhu=
ggins@genfiniti.com</a>> <br clear=3D"none">To: Triumph Mailing List <=
;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:triumphs@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" removedlink__788e137f-b06e-49f7-a2f8-655eb=
4e9ad50__href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a=
>> <br clear=3D"none">Sent: Sun, Sep 1, 2019 9:45 pm <br clear=3D"none">=
Subject: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs </span></div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">All=
, </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Aft=
er almost eight years of driving bliss, with just under 18K miles, it's tim=
e to replace what I suspect are the original road springs. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">The=
car has gotten way too bouncy, especially in the rear. Take a curve =
on a rough road, and it rear steers something awful. losing its contact wit=
h the road, as if the spring is not forcing the wheel back down quickly eno=
ugh. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">As =
far as shocks go, I=E2=80=99ve got Spax adjustable up front, and just order=
ed some heavy duty Armstrongs from Apple Hydraulics for the rear. </span></=
div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">I=
=E2=80=99ve gotten into some research, and everything seems to be pointing =
toward three grades of stiffness; original, uprated and competition. </span=
></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">I a=
m leaning toward the =E2=80=9Cuprated=E2=80=9D variety to stiffen the ride,=
but I want to keep stock height to not effect wheel camber. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Any=
experienced-based suggestions? </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Tha=
nks in advance. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Che=
ers, </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Guy=
D. Huggins </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">196=
5 Triumph TR4A </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2555572415MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">CTC=
63569LO </span></div>
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