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Re: [TR] Removing my head

To: Geo Hahn <ahwahneetr@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Removing my head
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 08:34:09 -0500
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Great suggestions all, just thought I would add the caution NOT to trim the m=
otor over while the head is off.  Or at least until the liners are very secu=
re.=20

Bill B
TS30800L

Sent from my IBM 8088

On Sep 1, 2019, at 9:13 PM, Geo Hahn <ahwahneetr@gmail.com> wrote:

Paul -

I clamp down the liners with big washers, long sockets and head nuts:

<head3.JPG>

The cardboard covering the oil galleys is to keep parts from jumping in ther=
e.

I used to just man-handle the head off of there but now that I am (much) old=
er I have fashioned a pulling set-up using a come-along hooked to a ceiling j=
oist.

<Head Puller 2.JPG>

Once the head is up & clear I slip a couple of 1x12s under there, lower it a=
nd slide it to one side towards me.  The head isn;t terribly heavy but the a=
ngle is such that you're leaning out and over if you try to lift it.

Geo


> On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 3:55 PM Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Awesome, thanks! What would I need at the auto zone? Paul
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>> On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 6:50 PM Tom Walling <pdqtr6@comcast.net> wrote:
>> You can't secure the liners until you get the head off Then the manual sh=
ows large washers sitting on the liners with tubes to get the nuts up to the=
 threads of the head studs. I would think stout fender washers and some stee=
l tubing would do the trick. You're trying to keep the liners from moving (t=
hus breaking the seal of the "figure-eight" gaskets). This looks like a quic=
k trip to your local hardware store and a few minutes measuring the non-trea=
ded part of the studs and you've got it!
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>>> On September 1, 2019 at 6:33 PM Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com> wrote:=20=

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>>> Tomorrow I'd like to remove the head of my TR3 and I don't think I've do=
ne it before.  I've been looking amongst my clutter for my long lost Worksho=
p Manual, but I can't find it anywhere. ISTR one might need to first brace t=
he sleeves; how is that done?  If that's the case, I ought to post phone rem=
oving the head, because I hadn't familiarized myself with this process, and I=
 don't want to rush things (it's only been 20 years!) Anything else I need t=
o know like what's the sequence for removing the headbolts (from the middle o=
ut or visa versa?
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>>> Wish me luck, Thanks
>>>                          Paul Dorsey  60 TR3A
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Great suggestions all, just thought I would=
 add the caution NOT to trim the motor over while the head is off. &nbsp;Or a=
t least until the liners are very secure.&nbsp;<div><div><br></div><div>Bill=
 B</div><div>TS30800L<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent=
 from my IBM 8088</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Sep 1, 2019, at 9:13 PM, Geo H=
ahn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ahwahneetr@gmail.com";>ahwahneetr@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Paul -<div><br></div>=
<div>I clamp down the liners with big washers, long sockets and head nuts:</=
div><div><br></div><div><div>&lt;head3.JPG&gt;<br></div></div><div><br></div=
><div>The cardboard covering the oil galleys is to keep parts from jumping i=
n there.</div><div><br></div><div>I used to just man-handle the head off of t=
here but now that I am (much) older I have fashioned a pulling set-up using a=
 come-along hooked to a ceiling joist.</div><div><br></div><div><div>&lt;Hea=
d Puller 2.JPG&gt;<br></div></div><div><br></div><div>Once the head is up &a=
mp; clear I slip a couple of 1x12s under there, lower it and slide it to one=
 side towards me.&nbsp; The head isn;t terribly heavy but the angle is such t=
hat you're leaning out and over if you try to lift it.</div><div><br></div><=
div>Geo</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D=
"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 3:55 PM Paul Dorsey &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com";>dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde=
r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir=3D"auto">A=
wesome, thanks! What would I need at the auto zone? Paul</div></div><div><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Se=
p 1, 2019 at 6:50 PM Tom Walling &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pdqtr6@comcast.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank">pdqtr6@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

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<div><p style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;=
font-size:12pt">You can't secure the liners until you get the head off Then t=
he manual shows large washers sitting on the liners with tubes to get the nu=
ts up to the threads of the head studs. I would think stout fender washers a=
nd some steel tubing would do the trick. You're trying to keep the liners fr=
om moving (thus breaking the seal of the "figure-eight" gaskets). This looks=
 like a quick trip to your local hardware store and a few minutes measuring t=
he non-treaded part of the studs and you've got it!</p><div class=3D"gmail-m=
_-4488366994367258068m_-2008727130069538184io-ox-signature">&nbsp;<br></div>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"></blockquote></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
On September 1, 2019 at 6:33 PM Paul Dorsey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote: <br> <br><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Tomorrow I'd like to remove the head of my TR3 and I don't think I=
've done it before.&nbsp; I've been looking amongst my clutter for my long l=
ost Workshop Manual, but I can't find it anywhere. ISTR one might need to fi=
rst brace the sleeves; how is that done?&nbsp; If that's&nbsp;the case, I ou=
ght to post phone removing the head, because I hadn't familiarized myself wi=
th this process, and I don't want to rush things (it's only been 20 years!) A=
nything else I need to know like what's the sequence for removing the headbo=
lts (from the middle out or visa versa?<div><br></div><div>Wish me luck, Tha=
nks</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Paul Dorsey&nbsp; 60 TR3A</div><div><br></div><d=
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