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Re: [TR] [6pack] Lucas PI

To: "'John Macartney'" <John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk>, "'Andrew Uprichard'" <auprichard@uprichard.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Lucas PI
From: "Keith Stewart" <keithstewart@bell.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 14:38:42 -0400
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Great information John. Succinct and to the point. Worth filing away in =
case I ever have to redo the engine in Chris=E2=80=99 TR6.

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Keith Stewart

keithstewart@bell.net

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From: John Macartney <John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk>=20
Sent: August 31, 2019 11:52 AM
To: Andrew Uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Lucas PI

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If all you want is an injected TR performance, I=E2=80=99d do this. Buy =
a us spec car.

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TR5 camshaft, still available in U.K. and a bit better too than the =
original. Shave the head to at least 9.5:1, fit flat top pistons, a =
Lucas D25 or 26 dizzy, the equivalent of the SAH 6-3-1 extractor exhaust =
manifold, two 1.75 SU carbs and bingo, you=E2=80=99re there. Ideally, if =
the donor car is a late model 6, email Chris Witor in the U.K. for a =
215019 head. These didn=E2=80=99t go to the US but we=E2=80=99re the =
best heads of the lot. Chris will confirm this and he=E2=80=99s a =
Triumph performance specialist. Goes without saying you=E2=80=99ll need =
anoverdrive. J type is ok but A type better imho. You=E2=80=99ll then =
have a car that is the injected versions performance equal in every way. =
These things are what we do in the U.K. to all 250s and carbed 6s that =
find their way back here. Good luck

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Jonmac

Whenever I feel the need for exercise, experience has shown me it is =
better to lie down until the feeling goes away. WINSTON CHURCHILL


On 30 Aug 2019, at 15:43, Andrew Uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net =

Thanks, Jonmac:  I don=E2=80=99t have the car yet =E2=80=93 and in fact =
am still going back-and-forth about whether to buy it.  I=E2=80=99ll =
keep you posted !

Andrew

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From: John Macartney [mailto:John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk]=20
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 6:50 PM
To: Andrew Uprichard
Subject: Re: [6pack] Lucas PI

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Can I help? Did the Lucas Service course, thefactory service course and =
owned a saloon with the pi engine to full U.K. police performance spec. =
Doubt you=E2=80=99ll find too many in the US with experience of the =
system. PI cars were never sold in North America in the day, though a =
very small number have snuck in since then. A word of advice. If =
you=E2=80=99re tempted to fiddle with the PI system, put everything =
you=E2=80=99ve learned about carbed cars entirely to one side. The Lucas =
system is a whole different ball game with very unique rules. That said, =
it=E2=80=99s a great setup but you need to know what you=E2=80=99re =
doing before you start:)

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Jonmac

Whenever I feel the need for exercise, experience has shown me it is =
better to lie down until the feeling goes away. WINSTON CHURCHILL


On 29 Aug 2019, at 22:20, Andrew Uprichard via 6pack =

Who is the go-to guy in the US for questions on the Lucas PI system?

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Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Great information John. Succinct =
and to the point. Worth filing away in case I ever have to redo the =
engine in Chris=E2=80=99 TR6.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Keith =
Stewart<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>keithstewart@bell.net<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> John Macartney =
&lt;John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> August 31, 2019 =
11:52 AM<br><b>To:</b> Andrew Uprichard =
&lt;auprichard@uprichard.net&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] [6pack] Lucas =
PI<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If all you =
want is an injected TR performance, I=E2=80=99d do this. Buy a us spec =
car.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>TR5 camshaft, still available in U.K. and a bit better =
too than the original. Shave the head to at least 9.5:1, fit flat top =
pistons, a Lucas D25 or 26 dizzy, the equivalent of the SAH 6-3-1 =
extractor exhaust manifold, two 1.75 SU carbs and bingo, you=E2=80=99re =
there. Ideally, if the donor car is a late model 6, email Chris Witor in =
the U.K. for a 215019 head. These didn=E2=80=99t go to the US but =
we=E2=80=99re the best heads of the lot. Chris will confirm this and =
he=E2=80=99s a Triumph performance specialist. Goes without saying =
you=E2=80=99ll need anoverdrive. J type is ok but A type better imho. =
You=E2=80=99ll then have a car that is the injected versions performance =
equal in every way. These things are what we do in the U.K. to all 250s =
and carbed 6s that find their way back here. Good =
luck<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Jonmac<o:p></o:p></p><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>Whenever I feel the need =
for exercise, experience has shown me it is better to lie down until the =
feeling goes away. WINSTON CHURCHILL<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 30 Aug 2019, at =
15:43, Andrew Uprichard &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net";>auprichard@uprichard.net</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Thanks, Jonmac:&nbsp; I don=E2=80=99t have =
the car yet =E2=80=93 and in fact am still going back-and-forth about =
whether to buy it.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ll keep you posted =
!<br><br>Andrew</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></=
b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> John =
Macartney [<a =
href=3D"mailto:John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk";>mailto:John.Macartney@Ukpips=
.org.uk</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 29, 2019 6:50 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Andrew Uprichard<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs; <a =
href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";>6pack@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subje=
ct:</b> Re: [6pack] Lucas PI</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Can I help? =
Did the Lucas Service course, thefactory service course and owned a =
saloon with the pi engine to full U.K. police performance spec. Doubt =
you=E2=80=99ll find too many in the US with experience of the system. PI =
cars were never sold in North America in the day, though a very small =
number have snuck in since then. A word of advice. If you=E2=80=99re =
tempted to fiddle with the PI system, put everything you=E2=80=99ve =
learned about carbed cars entirely to one side. The Lucas system is a =
whole different ball game with very unique rules. That said, =
it=E2=80=99s a great setup but you need to know what you=E2=80=99re =
doing before you start:)<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Jonmac<o:p></o:p></p><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>Whenever I feel the need =
for exercise, experience has shown me it is better to lie down until the =
feeling goes away. WINSTON CHURCHILL<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 29 Aug 2019, at =
22:20, Andrew Uprichard via 6pack &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";>6pack@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif'>Who is the go-to guy in the US for questions on the Lucas =
PI system?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Andrew =
Uprichard</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Jackson, =
Michigan</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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