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Re: [TR] [6pack] Lucas PI

To: John Macartney <John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk>, Andrew Uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Lucas PI
From: Paul Tegler <ptegler@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 12:51:31 -0400
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Granted it's not the 2.5L, (a GT6 2L) but I (and a couple others here as 
well) have F.I. triumph 6 cyls than run great!
Even with a trailer in tow,?? 31-35 mpg, is my norm ...with my normal 
heavy footed driving style. (hard not to have fun).
No,,,not Lucas PI (on mine) but power numbers are well above anything 
Triumph ever spec'ed.

ptegler (owner/builder of FIS6)


On 8/31/2019 11:51 AM, John Macartney wrote:
> If all you want is an injected TR performance, I???d do this. Buy a us 
> spec car.
>
> TR5 camshaft, still available in U.K. and a bit better too than the 
> original. Shave the head to at least 9.5:1, fit flat top pistons, a 
> Lucas D25 or 26 dizzy, the equivalent of the SAH 6-3-1 extractor 
> exhaust manifold, two 1.75 SU carbs and bingo, you???re there. Ideally, 
> if the donor car is a late model 6, email Chris Witor in the U.K. for 
> a 215019 head. These didn???t go to the US but we???re the best heads of 
> the lot. Chris will confirm this and he???s a Triumph performance 
> specialist. Goes without saying you???ll need anoverdrive. J type is ok 
> but A type better imho. You???ll then have a car that is the injected 
> versions performance equal in every way. These things are what we do 
> in the U.K. to all 250s and carbed 6s that find their way back here. 
> Good luck
>
> Jonmac
>
> Whenever I feel the need for exercise, experience has shown me it is 
> better to lie down until the feeling goes away. WINSTON CHURCHILL
>
> On 30 Aug 2019, at 15:43, Andrew Uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net 
>
>> Thanks, Jonmac:?? I don???t have the car yet ??? and in fact am still 
>> going back-and-forth about whether to buy it. I???ll keep you posted !
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> *From:*John Macartney [mailto:John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 29, 2019 6:50 PM
>> *To:* Andrew Uprichard
>> *Subject:* Re: [6pack] Lucas PI
>>
>> Can I help? Did the Lucas Service course, thefactory service course 
>> and owned a saloon with the pi engine to full U.K. police performance 
>> spec. Doubt you???ll find too many in the US with experience of the 
>> system. PI cars were never sold in North America in the day, though a 
>> very small number have snuck in since then. A word of advice. If 
>> you???re tempted to fiddle with the PI system, put everything you???ve 
>> learned about carbed cars entirely to one side. The Lucas system is a 
>> whole different ball game with very unique rules. That said, it???s a 
>> great setup but you need to know what you???re doing before you start:)
>>
>> Jonmac
>>
>> Whenever I feel the need for exercise, experience has shown me it is 
>> better to lie down until the feeling goes away. WINSTON CHURCHILL
>>
>>
>> On 29 Aug 2019, at 22:20, Andrew Uprichard via 6pack 
>>
>>     Who is the go-to guy in the US for questions on the Lucas PI system?
>>
>>     Andrew Uprichard
>>
>>     Jackson, Michigan
>>
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    <p>Granted it's not the 2.5L, (a GT6 2L) but I (and a couple others
      here as well) have F.I. triumph 6 cyls than run great!<br>
      Even with a trailer in tow,?? 31-35 mpg, is my norm ...with my
      normal heavy footed driving style. (hard not to have fun).<br>
      No,,,not Lucas PI (on mine) but power numbers are well above
      anything Triumph ever spec'ed.</p>
    <p>ptegler (owner/builder of FIS6)</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/31/2019 11:51 AM, John Macartney
      wrote:<br>
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      cite="mid:3D0DBD17-DEBD-439D-8094-10714FAAE165@Ukpips.org.uk">
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      If all you want is an injected TR performance, I???d do this. Buy a
      us spec car.
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>TR5 camshaft, still available in U.K. and a bit better too
        than the original. Shave the head to at least 9.5:1, fit flat
        top pistons, a Lucas D25 or 26 dizzy, the equivalent of the SAH
        6-3-1 extractor exhaust manifold, two 1.75 SU carbs and bingo,
        you???re there. Ideally, if the donor car is a late model 6, email
        Chris Witor in the U.K. for a 215019 head. These didn???t go to
        the US but we???re the best heads of the lot. Chris will confirm
        this and he???s a Triumph performance specialist. Goes without
        saying you???ll need anoverdrive. J type is ok but A type better
        imho. You???ll then have a car that is the injected versions
        performance equal in every way. These things are what we do in
        the U.K. to all 250s and carbed 6s that find their way back
        here. Good luck</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Jonmac<br>
        <br>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Whenever I feel the need
          for exercise, experience has shown me it is better to lie down
          until the feeling goes away. WINSTON CHURCHILL</div>
        <div dir="ltr"><br>
          On 30 Aug 2019, at 15:43, Andrew Uprichard &lt;<a
            href="mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net";
            moz-do-not-send="true">auprichard@uprichard.net</a>&gt;
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times
                  New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Thanks,
                  Jonmac:?? I don???t have the car yet ??? and in fact am
                  still going back-and-forth about whether to buy it.??
                  I???ll keep you posted !<br>
                  <br>
                  Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                      John Macartney [<a
                        href="mailto:John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk";
                        
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk</a>]
                      <br>
                      <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 29, 2019 6:50 PM<br>
                      <b>To:</b> Andrew Uprichard<br>
                      <b>Cc:</b> Triumphs; <a
                        href="mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";
                        moz-do-not-send="true">6pack@autox.team.net</a><br>
                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] Lucas PI<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>??</o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Can I help? Did the Lucas Service
                course, thefactory service course and owned a saloon
                with the pi engine to full U.K. police performance spec.
                Doubt you???ll find too many in the US with experience of
                the system. PI cars were never sold in North America in
                the day, though a very small number have snuck in since
                then. A word of advice. If you???re tempted to fiddle with
                the PI system, put everything you???ve learned about
                carbed cars entirely to one side. The Lucas system is a
                whole different ball game with very unique rules. That
                said, it???s a great setup but you need to know what
                you???re doing before you start:)<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>??</o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" 
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Whenever I feel the need for
                    exercise, experience has shown me it is better to
                    lie down until the feeling goes away. WINSTON
                    CHURCHILL<o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
                    On 29 Aug 2019, at 22:20, Andrew Uprichard via 6pack
                    &lt;<a href="mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";
                      moz-do-not-send="true">6pack@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-family:&quot;Times New
                        Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Who is the go-to
                        guy in the US for questions on the Lucas PI
                        system?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-family:&quot;Times New
                        Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">??</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-family:&quot;Times New
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Uprichard</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-family:&quot;Times New
                        Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Jackson, 
Michigan</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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