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Am lucky in having two generations who love the car. The one pictured here=
is my youngest son Connor with his nephew, my grandson. Connor was milita=
ry intelligence in the army, served in the Middle East. Now he's studying =
Engineering at UNH. Before that, when he was 12 years old in 7th grade, I =
drove him around in the TR3 with the top down. I made the mistake of teach=
ing him that, if a car is tailgating behind you, all you had to do was make=
a show of spittting straight up into the air and letting the air current d=
o the rest. I think it was all he could think of for the next year as he r=
ode with me. We lost a lot of saliva on Route 3A. Just saying. Ever sinc=
e he got his drivers license, he's pestered me to let him drive it. I'd ha=
ve let him take it to the senior prom, but it was undergoing an engine rebu=
ild at the time.=20
I've always wondered, though, and perhaps you all have some thoughts, about=
how long we can count on having TRF and Moss Motors supplying such amazing=
support for these cars?
Terry Smith, '59 TR3A
New Hampshire
> On December 19, 2018 at 8:06 PM Harold Sawatsky <hsawatsk@sasktel.net> wr=
ote:
>=20
> =20
> Luckily (at least so far) my kids love the old man :) My son that is =
most capable actually really likes the 3. Everyone is really looking forwar=
d to getting in and taking a turn driving the relic. Way too much of comple=
ting the restoration is in my head so we better finish up soon cause ya nev=
er know !!! Trust me, it's all fun. Great experience with all the kids and =
grandkids. You guys should all enjoy these antiques and pass on as much as =
you can to the next generation.=20
>=20
> On Dec 18, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Sujit Roy < triumphstag@gmail.com mailto=
:triumphstag@gmail.com > wrote:
>=20
>=20
> > > Harold,
> > You need buy another couple of Triumphs to keep them all happy.
> >=20
> > I have another twist which came from the trust lawyer. Just bec=
ause you like something, don't hand it down your kids They will hate you. I=
have Stag and working on another. I cant see traits in neither of my boys=
(16 and 11 years) working on cars. The Stag runs OK, but I'm on top of i=
t.=20
> >=20
> > Sujit
> >=20
> > On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 4:08 PM Harold Sawatsky < hsawatsk@sask=
tel.net mailto:hsawatsk@sasktel.net > wrote:
> >=20
> > > > >=20
> > > Lots of important questions. I have 3 kids that all wante=
d the small mouth 3. Daughter and 2 sons. I have done a frame up and restor=
ing it back to factory (still working on it but getting there). I have foot=
ed the bill for all parts and most will know it=E2=80=99s not cheap. Whoeve=
r gets it will drive it the way I did. Not a big deal at all. Live in Canad=
a and drove it all over the western US as far as Mexico. A great experience=
.
> > >=20
> > > Choice of who will get it came down to a few factors. Old=
est son wanted it because he is the oldest. Unfortunately not mechanically =
inclined but had no problem getting his hands dirty. Daughter really wanted=
it because she=E2=80=99s my daughter. Have to say I made her take the head=
off her 1st car to get a valve job done and do oil changes but I was there=
to help. Great reason but if something happened it would sit. Youngest son=
wants it AND he has helped in the tear down and the rebuild. He=E2=80=99s =
a white collar worker but mechanically inclined. Not afraid to work on it a=
nd get er done. He=E2=80=99s offered to help paying for the body work. He=
=E2=80=99s the logical choice. Was always a bit concerned what the others w=
ould say but they both understand completely. Was never a choice to sell it=
and split the money. Family heirloom.
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > My 2 cents
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ma=
ilto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ] On Behalf Of dave
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 10:37 AM
> > > To: triumphs@autox.team.net mailto:triumphs@autox.team.ne=
t
> > > Subject: Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > All good advice. But i think the most important questio=
n has not been asked. =20
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > If she really really wants this car, what you are doing =
is quite wonderful. However, if she is not prepared for sidescreens, a t=
op that is difficult to put up, no power anything, i question whether this=
is a gift or a burden. I know that my daughter, who is 28, would not lik=
e this gift. She had grown up around these cars, and has some understandi=
ng of what ownership means. She is very much on board with inheriting my =
350z convertible, manual shift.=20
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > Just my 2 cents
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > -------- Original message --------
> > >=20
> > > From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <tjwakeman@gmail.com mailto:tj=
wakeman@gmail.com >
> > >=20
> > > Date: 12/16/18 8:24 AM (GMT-06:00)
> > >=20
> > > To: triumphs@autox.team.net mailto:triumphs@autox.team.ne=
t
> > >=20
> > > Subject: Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > This thread is getting silly. Just bring a car to origina=
l factory spec
> > > with all the parts in spec then have it professionally se=
rviced per the
> > > factory manual. They were considered dependable drivers w=
hen new and
> > > many that have problems today experience what happens fro=
m worn parts
> > > and delayed maintenance.
> > >=20
> > > TeriAnn
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > > On 12/15/18, Lawarence Schwartz <L1j1s@aol.com mailto:L=
1j1s@aol.com > wrote:
> > > >> In addition to Andrew=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s sugges=
tion, one can consider the following a
> > > >> alternator, pertronix, electric fan and a Dan Masters =
wiring system. Larry
> > > >> Schwartz
> > > >>
> > >=20
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**
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</head><body><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sa=
ns-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Am lucky in having two generations who l=
ove the car.  The one pictured here is my youngest son Connor with his=
nephew, my grandson.  Connor was military intelligence in the army, s=
erved in the Middle East.  Now he's studying Engineering at UNH.&#=
160; Before that, when he was 12 years old in 7th grade, I drove him around=
in the TR3 with the top down.  I made the mistake of teaching him tha=
t, if a car is tailgating behind you, all you had to do was make a show of =
spittting straight up into the air and letting the air current do the rest.=
  I think it was all he could think of for the next year as he rode wi=
th me.  We lost a lot of saliva on Route 3A.  Just saying.  =
Ever since he got his drivers license, he's pestered me to let him driv=
e it.  I'd have let him take it to the senior prom, but it was und=
ergoing an engine rebuild at the time.  <br></p><p style=3D"font-size:=
12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">=
<br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-se=
rif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">I've always wondered, though, and perhaps=
you all have some thoughts, about how long we can count on having TRF and =
Moss Motors supplying such amazing support for these cars?<br></p><p style=
=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(=
51, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, =
arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Terry Smith, '59 TR3A<br></=
p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; c=
olor: rgb(51, 51, 51);">New Hampshire<br></p><blockquote type=3D"cite">On D=
ecember 19, 2018 at 8:06 PM Harold Sawatsky <hsawatsk@sasktel.net> =
wrote: <br> <br><div> <br></div><div>Luckily (at least so far) my kids=
love the old man :) My son that is most capable actually really likes the =
3. Everyone is really looking forward to getting in and taking a turn drivi=
ng the relic. Way too much of completing the restoration is in my head so w=
e better finish up soon cause ya never know !!! Trust me, it's all fun.=
Great experience with all the kids and grandkids. You guys should all enjo=
y these antiques and pass on as much as you can to the next generation.=
0;</div><div><br>On Dec 18, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Sujit Roy < <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:triumphstag@gmail.com">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <br> <br>=
</div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Harold,<div>You need =
buy another couple of Triumphs to keep them all happy.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>I have another twist which came from the trust lawyer. Just because yo=
u like something, don't hand it down your kids They will hate you. I ha=
ve  Stag and working on another. I cant see traits in neither of my bo=
ys (16 and 11 years)   working on cars. The Stag runs OK, but I&#=
39;m on top of it. </div><div><br></div><div>Sujit</div></div><br=
><div class=3D"ox-d483c0c531-gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, =
2018 at 4:08 PM Harold Sawatsky < <a href=3D"mailto:hsawatsk@sasktel.ne=
t">hsawatsk@sasktel.net</a>> wrote: <br></div><blockquote><div><div cla=
ss=3D"ox-d483c0c531-gmail-m_-3883146468145062672WordSection1"><p class=3D"o=
x-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibr=
i,sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">Lots of important questions. I have 3 kids t=
hat all wanted the small mouth 3. Daughter and 2 sons. I have done a frame =
up and restoring it back to factory (still working on it but getting there)=
. I have footed the bill for all parts and most will know it’s not ch=
eap. Whoever gets it will drive it the way I did. Not a big deal at all. Li=
ve in Canada and drove it all over the western US as far as Mexico. A great=
experience. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: #1f=
497d;">Choice of who will get it came down to a few factors. Oldest son wan=
ted it because he is the oldest. Unfortunately not mechanically inclined bu=
t had no problem getting his hands dirty. Daughter really wanted it because=
she’s my daughter. Have to say I made her take the head off her 1<su=
p>st</sup> car to get a valve job done and do oil changes but I was there t=
o help. Great reason but if something happened it would sit. Youngest son w=
ants it AND he has helped in the tear down and the rebuild. He’s a wh=
ite collar worker but mechanically inclined. Not afraid to work on it and g=
et er done. He’s offered to help paying for the body work. He’s=
the logical choice. Was always a bit concerned what the others would say b=
ut they both understand completely. Was never a choice to sell it and split=
the money. Family heirloom.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c=
531-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-se=
rif; color: #1f497d;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c=
531-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-se=
rif; color: #1f497d;">My 2 cents<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"ox-d48=
3c0c531-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,san=
s-serif; color: #1f497d;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D=
"border-right: none; border-bottom: none; border-left: none; border-top: 1p=
t solid #b5c4df; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal=
"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif;">=
From:</span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,sa=
ns-serif;"> Triumphs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.=
net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>=
] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>dave<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Sunday, Dece=
mber 16, 2018 10:37 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">triumphs@autox.team.net</=
a><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph<u></u><u></u=
></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><u></u> <=
u></u></p><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal">All good advice.   =
;But i think the most important question has not been asked.   <u=
></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><u></u> <u><=
/u></p></div><div><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal">If she really really=
wants this car,  what you are doing is quite wonderful.   H=
owever,  if she is not prepared for sidescreens, a top that is difficu=
lt to put up,  no power anything<span style=3D"font-family: Arial,sans=
-serif;">, i question whether this is a gift or a burden.   I kno=
w that my daughter, who is 28, would not like this gift.   She ha=
d grown up around these cars, and has some understanding of what ownership =
means.   She is very much on board with inheriting my 350z conver=
tible,  manual shift. </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;"=
>Just my 2 cents</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c5=
31-MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"ox-d483c0=
c531-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: black;">-------- Original message ---=
-----<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"color: black;">From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <<a=
href=3D"mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">tjw=
akeman@gmail.com</a>> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"o=
x-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: black;">Date: 12/16/18 8:24 A=
M (GMT-06:00) <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c531=
-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: black;">To: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">triumphs@autox.team.net</a=
> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"color: black;">Subject: Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph <u></=
u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"color: black;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=
=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal">This thread is getting silly. Just bring a car=
to original factory spec <br>with all the parts in spec then have it profe=
ssionally serviced per the <br>factory manual. They were considered dependa=
ble drivers when new and <br>many that have problems today experience what =
happens from worn parts <br>and delayed maintenance.<br><br>TeriAnn<br><br>=
<br>> On 12/15/18, Lawarence Schwartz <<a href=3D"mailto:L1j1s@aol.=
com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">L1j1s@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br>&#=
62;> In addition to Andrewâ€=E2=84=A2s  suggestion, one=
can consider the following a<br>>> alternator, pertronix, electric=
fan and a Dan Masters wiring system. Larry<br>>> Schwartz<br>>=
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