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Geo,=20
Looks very neat indeed. Is that the 7" or 8" square model?
B
Sent from my Altair 8800
On Sep 27, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Geo Hahn <ahwahneetr@gmail.com> wrote:
Randall -
Here is mine after I reversed the box as Bill describes (Harbor Freight step=
drills work great for this):
<Heater2.JPG>
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For trial fitting while waiting for delivery I worked with a cardboard mock-=
up:
<Heater1.JPG>
Here is the unit in place:
<Heater3.JPG>
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I did not connect a defroster as it seemed unnecessary with my climate and d=
riving style:
<Brrr.JPG>
Geo
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> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Bill Brewer <billbrewer59@yahoo.com> wrot=
e:
> Just run the regular thermostat. I regularly drive the car with the t=
emperature in the teens and am comfortable. It might be a different story wh=
en it is below zero.
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> Haven=E2=80=99t noticed a big change in the engine running temperatur=
e.
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> I bought smooth defroster hoses from McMaster Carr thinking that it w=
ould aid in airflow to the defroster vents. The Maradyne heater has closeabl=
e flaps that should force the air through the defroster vents. Alas, it is n=
ot so. Not sure why. I have considered rigging a 12 volt hair dryer to the d=
efroster vent to defrost the windscreen.
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> And Randall, my bro-in-law lives in Wasseon, Ohio and I had to go to W=
hitehouse to eat steaks at the Whitehouse Inn last summer. We also went to G=
rand Rapids to look at the water (a fantasy come true for a Californian). La=
ter we bought about $500 in fireworks and let all of our pyromaniac fantasie=
s come true, another treat for a family whose state is always catching fire.=
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> =20
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> -Bill in Tehachapi
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> =20
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> From: Reihing, Randall S. [mailto:Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu]=20
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 1:42 PM
> To: William Brewer
> Subject: RE: [TR] Was Smiths Heater Core Rebuilding/Now Maradyne Heaters
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> =20
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> Hi Bill,
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> Wow, I am very impressed how well the Maradyne has worked for you. I have=
not driven the TR3 much at all once temps are below40F as it's not all that=
comfortable. That Maradyne 25,000 BTU heater may change all that.=20
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> =20
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> Since it's cold enough to snow at your place, like here, that Maradyne's 2=
5,000 Btu's is about 5 times more than the stock heater so I am wondering if=
you have noticed any change in engine operating temperature when the heater=
is at full output.=20
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> Do you need to install a higher temp engine thermostat for winter use?=20
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> Randall in Whitehouse, Ohio, 26 miles SW of Toledo.=20
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> From: William Brewer [billbrewer59@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 2:16 PM
> To: Reihing, Randall S.
> Subject: Re: [TR] Was Smiths Heater Core Rebuilding/Now Maradyne Heaters
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> Hi Randall,
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> Yes, I mounted the larger heater (25,000 BTUs) and it fit fine. It is=
almost the same size as the smaller heater but has a more powerful fan and l=
arger heater core. It puts out a lot of heat. It snows where I live and it k=
eeps me comfortable regardless of the outside temperature.
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> If you need more information, just ask.
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> I rebuilt my TR3 engine and transmission 2 years ago and didn't re-in=
stall the heater until yesterday. My Honda died and I have been driving a 19=
52 Triumph Renown until I get the heater working in the TR3 and then the TR3=
will be my work car until I get another "real" car. Once I had to use my TR=
3 as my work car for 2 years!
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> =20
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> -Bill in Tehachapi, California
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> =20
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> On Monday, September 26, 2016 10:24 AM, "Reihing, Randall S." <Randall.Rei=
hing@utoledo.edu> wrote:
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> Hi Bill,
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> Thank you for sharing your results with the Maradyne heater. I very much l=
ike the way you mounted your Maradyne. I have flushed out the stock TR3A gre=
ater and it is working about as well as expected. I believe the stock TR3A h=
eater is rated at very close to a 5000 BTU output. Maybe it was intended to b=
e a bit of a mental deception in that feeling the modest output of slightly w=
arm air with your frozen finger tips would have you believe you were warmer t=
han you really were.
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> =20
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> Triumph did offer a very rare option in heaters for far northern climates b=
ut I have never been able to find one.=20
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> Anyway, I am curious which of the two Maradyne heaters you used. There are=
some dimensional differences between the two in the link you very kindly sh=
ared. The smaller one is rated at 12,000 BTU's with the slightly larger one r=
ated at 25,000 BTU's, more than double the output for a modest increase in s=
ize. =20
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> Hoping you might have time for a reply.
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> Thank you.
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> Sincerely,
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> Randall Reihing=20
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> From: Triumphs [triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] on behalf of Bill Brewer [=
billbrewer59@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 12:09 AM
> To: 'David Friedlander'
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] Was Smiths Heater Core Rebuilding/Now Maradyne Heaters
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> Maradynes are aftermarket heaters designed for farm tractors or mayb=
e a pickup truck. They almost slide straight in to where the original TR3 he=
ater was.
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> To make the Maradyne fit the TR3 better you need to disassemble it an=
d reverse the heater core so the intake/exhaust is on the front of the heate=
r and not the back. This way you can mount it flush against the battery box.=
I also cut out a notch to better clear the TR3 choke cable. Make the notch a=
lot bigger than you think it should be to avoid the choke cable having to b=
end. I used copper plumbing fittings from Lowes to reduce the fittings down t=
o 3/8=E2=80=9D rigid copper pipe which has a 0.5=E2=80=9D OD to fit the TR3 h=
eater hoses.
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> I have seen Maradynes mounted to the trans tunnel, but I don=E2=80=99=
t like the look.
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> I mounted my Maradyne to the back of the battery box using #10 SS she=
et metal screws. I held it in place using double-sided tape while I was dril=
ling the holes. I lined the bottom of the Maradyne even with the bottom of t=
he battery box. You can barely see it under the dash. You can paint or uphol=
ster the heater to match your interior.
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> The Maradyne seems to put out about 2 or 3 times as much heat as the o=
riginal TR3 heater. Even with smooth defroster hoses I barely can get an ant=
s fart to come out the defroster vents.
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> =20
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> https://www.amazon.com/Maradyne-H-803012-Phoenix-Floor-Heater/=
dp/B00DZEZ0KS/ref=3Dpd_lpo_263_tr_t_3?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1&refRID=3DJT51F1QH1AN=
E406VY6DQ
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> They have two sizes of heaters. I would try to put in the bigger one (=
25,000 BTU) if possible.
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> Good luck!
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> -Bill Brewer
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> =20
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> From: David Friedlander [mailto:forzion7@gmail.com]=20
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:36 PM
> To: Bill Brewer
> Subject: Re: [TR] Smiths Heater Core Rebuilding
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> =20
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> Bill;
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> Don't know the answer to your question but where does one get a Maradyne h=
eater for their TR3? Do you know a part number? I've had my radiator cleaned=
and rebuilt but the heater core is in rough shape....
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> Thanks!!
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> Dave Friedlander
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> '59 TR3A
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> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Bill Brewer <billbrewer59@yahoo.com> wrot=
e:
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> The heater core in my Triumph Renown is leaking. Does anyone know of a=
rebuilder for TR3-type Smiths heaters? I would go with a Maradyne heater li=
ke I have in my TR3, but it is very visible in the Renown and wouldn=E2=80=99=
t look right.
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> TIA,
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> Bill Brewer
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Geo, </div><div id=3D"AppleMailSi=
gnature">Looks very neat indeed. Is that the 7" or 8" square model?</d=
iv><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">B<br><br>Sent from my <span style=3D"=
background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Altair 8800</span></div><div><br>=
On Sep 27, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Geo Hahn <<a href=3D"mailto:ahwahneetr@gmail=
.com">ahwahneetr@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div>Randall -</div><div><br></div><div>Here is mine after I reversed the b=
ox as Bill describes (Harbor Freight step drills work great for this):</div>=
<div><br></div><div><Heater2.JPG><br>=E2=80=8B</div><div>For trial fit=
ting while waiting for delivery I worked with a cardboard mock-up:</div><div=
><br></div><div><Heater1.JPG></div><div><br></div><div>Here is the uni=
t in place:</div><div><br></div><div><Heater3.JPG><br>=E2=80=8B</div><=
div>I did not connect a defroster as it seemed unnecessary with my clim=
ate and driving style:</div><div><br></div><div><Brrr.JPG></div><=
div><br></div><div>Geo<br>=E2=80=8B<br>=E2=80=8B</div><div><br></div></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 26, 201=
6 at 9:43 PM, Bill Brewer <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:billbrewer=
59@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">billbrewer59@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:=
<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" vlink=3D"purple" link=3D=
"blue"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri" s=
ize=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri"=
;,"sans-serif";font-size:12pt"> Just run t=
he regular thermostat. I regularly drive the car with the temperature in the=
teens and am comfortable. It might be a different story when it is below ze=
ro.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"#1f=
497d" face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-f=
amily:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">  =
; Haven=E2=80=99t noticed a big change in the engine running tem=
perature.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D=
"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);fo=
nt-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"> &=
nbsp; I bought smooth defroster hoses from McMaster Carr thinkin=
g that it would aid in airflow to the defroster vents. The Maradyne heater h=
as closeable flaps that should force the air through the defroster vents. Al=
as, it is not so. Not sure why. I have considered rigging a 12 volt hair dry=
er to the defroster vent to defrost the windscreen.<u></u><u></u></span></fo=
nt></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri" size=3D=
"3"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",&quo=
t;sans-serif";font-size:12pt"> And Randall, my b=
ro-in-law lives in Wasseon, Ohio and I had to go to Whitehouse to eat steaks=
at the Whitehouse Inn last summer. We also went to Grand Rapids to look at t=
he water (a fantasy come true for a Californian). Later we bought about $500=
in fireworks and let all of our pyromaniac fantasies come true, another tre=
at for a family whose state is always catching fire.<u></u><u></u></span></f=
ont></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri" size=
=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",&=
quot;sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3"><=
span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","san=
s-serif";font-size:12pt"> -Bill in Tehachapi<u>=
</u><u></u></span></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"#1f497d" f=
ace=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&=
quot;Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><u></u> <u></=
u></span></font></p><div><div style=3D"border-width:1pt medium medium;border=
-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentColor currentCol=
or;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=
=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";=
font-size:10pt;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font face=3D"Tahoma=
" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif&=
quot;;font-size:10pt"> Reihing, Randall S. [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Randall=
.Reihing@utoledo.edu" target=3D"_blank">Randall.Reihing@<wbr>utoledo.edu</a>=
] <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, September=
26, 2016 1:42 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Will=
iam Brewer<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> RE: [T=
R] Was Smiths Heater Core Rebuilding/Now Maradyne Heaters<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></font></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New Roma=
n" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></fo=
nt></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" siz=
e=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:"Tahoma","sans=
-serif";font-size:10pt">Hi Bill, <u></u><u></u></span></font></p><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span=
style=3D"color:black;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";=
font-size:10pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"=
color:black;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:=
10pt">Wow, I am very impressed how well the Maradyne has worked for you.&nbs=
p; I have not driven the TR3 much at all once temps are below40F as it's not=
all that comfortable. That Maradyne 25,000 BTU heater may change all t=
hat. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<font color=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black;=
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><u></u=
> <u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font colo=
r=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black;font-famil=
y:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">Since it's cold e=
nough to snow at your place, like here, that Maradyne's 25,000 Btu's is abou=
t 5 times more than the stock heater so I am wondering if you have noticed a=
ny change in engine operating temperature when the heater is at full output.=
<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><fon=
t color=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black;font=
-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><u></u>&nb=
sp;<u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D=
"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">Do you need to insta=
ll a higher temp engine thermostat for winter use? <u></u><u></u></span=
></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"=
Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:"Tahoma"=
,"sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" si=
ze=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:"Tahoma","san=
s-serif";font-size:10pt">Randall in Whitehouse, Ohio, 26 miles SW of To=
ledo. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black=
;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><u></=
u> <u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font col=
or=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black;font-fami=
ly:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><u></u> <u=
></u></span></font></p><div><div align=3D"center" class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D=
"text-align:center"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3=
"><span style=3D"color:black;font-size:12pt"><hr width=3D"100%" size=3D"2" a=
lign=3D"center"></span></font></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mar=
gin-bottom:12pt"><b><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span s=
tyle=3D"color:black;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";fo=
nt-size:10pt;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font color=3D"black" f=
ace=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:"Tahom=
a","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"> William Brewer [<a href=3D"m=
ailto:billbrewer59@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">billbrewer59@yahoo.com</a>]<=
br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, September 26=
, 2016 2:16 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Reihing=
, Randall S.<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [=
TR] Was Smiths Heater Core Rebuilding/Now Maradyne Heaters</span></font><fon=
t color=3D"black"><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font></=
p></div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><fo=
nt color=3D"black" face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:black;=
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Hi R=
andall,<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3">=
<span style=3D"color:black;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-seri=
f";font-size:12pt"> Yes, I mounted the larger h=
eater (25,000 BTUs) and it fit fine. It is almost the same size as the small=
er heater but has a more powerful fan and larger heater core. It puts out a l=
ot of heat. It snows where I live and it keeps me comfortable regardless of t=
he outside temperature.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Helveti=
ca" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:"Helvetica",=
"sans-serif";font-size:12pt"> If you need m=
ore information, just ask.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Hel=
vetica" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:"Helvetica&qu=
ot;,"sans-serif";font-size:12pt"> I rebuil=
t my TR3 engine and transmission 2 years ago and didn't re-install the heate=
r until yesterday. My Honda died and I have been driving a 1952 Triumph Reno=
wn until I get the heater working in the TR3 and then the TR3 will be my wor=
k car until I get another "real" car. Once I had to use my TR3 as my work ca=
r for 2 years!<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Helvetica" size=
=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:"Helvetica","sa=
ns-serif";font-size:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"black" f=
ace=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:"He=
lvetica","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">  =
; -Bill in Tehachapi, California<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;margin-bottom:12pt"><font co=
lor=3D"black" face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:black;font-=
family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><u></u>&=
nbsp;<u></u></span></font></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2=
"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif&=
quot;;font-size:10pt">On Monday, September 26, 2016 10:24 AM, "Reihing, Rand=
all S." <<a href=3D"mailto:Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu"; target=3D"_blank"=
>Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu</a>> wrote:</span></font><font color=3D"blac=
k" face=3D"Helvetica"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:"Helvetica=
","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;margin-bottom:12pt"><font color=3D=
"black" face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family=
:"Helvetica","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><u></u> <=
u></u></span></font></p><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"=
background:white"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span sty=
le=3D"color:black;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font=
-size:10pt">Hi Bill, <u></u><u></u></span></font></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D=
"2"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-ser=
if";font-size:10pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"black" face=3D=
"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:"Tahoma"=
;,"sans-serif";font-size:10pt">Thank you for sharing your results w=
ith the Maradyne heater. I very much like the way you mounted your Maradyne.=
I have flushed out the stock TR3A greater and it is working about as well a=
s expected. I believe the stock TR3A heater is rated at very close to a=
5000 BTU output. Maybe it was intended to be a bit of a mental decepti=
on in that feeling the modest output of slightly warm air with your frozen&n=
bsp;finger tips would have you believe you were warmer than you re=
ally were.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" s=
tyle=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><=
span style=3D"color:black;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif&qu=
ot;;font-size:10pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Tah=
oma" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:"Tahoma",&q=
uot;sans-serif";font-size:10pt">Triumph did offer a very rare option in=
heaters for far northern climates but I have never been able to find one.&n=
bsp;<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D=
"background:white"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span st=
yle=3D"color:black;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";fon=
t-size:10pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" si=
ze=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:"Tahoma","san=
s-serif";font-size:10pt">Anyway, I am curious which of the two Maradyne=
heaters you used. There are some dimensional differences between the two in=
the link you very kindly shared. The smaller one is rated at 12,0=
00 BTU's with the slightly larger one rated at 25,000 BTU's, more than doubl=
e the output for a modest increase in size. <u></u><u></u></=
span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"=
><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black=
;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><u></=
u> <u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"=
background:white"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span sty=
le=3D"color:black;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font=
-size:10pt">Hoping you might have time for a reply.<u></u><u></u></span></fo=
nt></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font co=
lor=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black;font-fam=
ily:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><u></u> <=
u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"backgroun=
d:white"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"col=
or:black;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10p=
t">Thank you.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"=
2"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-seri=
f";font-size:10pt">Sincerely,<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"black" fac=
e=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:"Tahoma&=
quot;,"sans-serif";font-size:10pt">Randall Reihing <u></u><u>=
</u></span></font></p></div><div><div><div align=3D"center" class=3D"MsoNorm=
al" style=3D"background:white;text-align:center"><font color=3D"black" face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:black;font-size:12pt"><hr w=
idth=3D"100%" size=3D"2" align=3D"center"></span></font></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;margin-bottom:12pt"><b><font color=3D"=
black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:&qu=
ot;Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;font-weight:bold">From:=
</span></font></b><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span sty=
le=3D"color:black;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font=
-size:10pt"> Triumphs [<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.<wbr>net</a>] on behalf of Bill B=
rewer [<a href=3D"mailto:billbrewer59@yahoo.com"; target=3D"_blank">billbrewe=
r59@yahoo.com</a>]<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> M=
onday, September 26, 2016 12:09 AM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To=
:</span></b> 'David Friedlander'<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Cc:<=
/span></b> <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">triu=
mphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</spa=
n></b> [TR] Was Smiths Heater Core Rebuilding/Now Maradyne Heaters</span></f=
ont><font color=3D"black"><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span><=
/font></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:wh=
ite"><font color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"colo=
r:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font=
-size:12pt"> Maradynes are aftermarket heaters=
designed for farm tractors or maybe a pickup truck. They almost slide strai=
ght in to where the original TR3 heater was.</span></font><font color=3D"bla=
ck"><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"#1f497d" fac=
e=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"> &n=
bsp; To make the Maradyne fit the TR3 better you need to disassemble it and r=
everse the heater core so the intake/exhaust is on the front of the heater a=
nd not the back. This way you can mount it flush against the battery box. I a=
lso cut out a notch to better clear the TR3 choke cable. Make the notch a lo=
t bigger than you think it should be to avoid the choke cable having to bend=
. I used copper plumbing fittings from Lowes to reduce the fittings down to 3=
/8=E2=80=9D rigid copper pipe which has a 0.5=E2=80=9D OD to fit the TR3 hea=
ter hoses.</span></font><font color=3D"black"><span style=3D"color:black"><u=
></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"bac=
kground:white"><font color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3"><span sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif&=
quot;;font-size:12pt"> I have seen Maradynes mounted=
to the trans tunnel, but I don=E2=80=99t like the look.</span></font><font c=
olor=3D"black"><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"#=
1f497d" face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font=
-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"> &nb=
sp; I mounted my Maradyne to the back of the battery box using #=
10 SS sheet metal screws. I held it in place using double-sided tape while I=
was drilling the holes. I lined the bottom of the Maradyne even with the bo=
ttom of the battery box. You can barely see it under the dash. You can paint=
or upholster the heater to match your interior.</span></font><font color=3D=
"black"><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"#1f497d"=
face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family=
:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"> &nbs=
p; The Maradyne seems to put out about 2 or 3 times as much heat as th=
e original TR3 heater. Even with smooth defroster hoses I barely can get an a=
nts fart to come out the defroster vents.</span></font><font color=3D"black"=
><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D=
"Calibri" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"C=
alibri","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"> </span></font><fon=
t color=3D"black"><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D=
"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);fo=
nt-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"> &=
nbsp; <a href=3D"https=
://www.amazon.com/Maradyne-H-803012-Phoenix-Floor-Heater/dp/B00DZEZ0KS/ref=3D=
pd_lpo_263_tr_t_3?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1&refRID=3DJT51F1QH1ANE406VY6DQ" t=
arget=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/<wbr>Maradyne-H-803012-Phoenix-<wbr>=
Floor-Heater/dp/B00DZEZ0KS/<wbr>ref=3Dpd_lpo_263_tr_t_3?ie=3DUTF8&<wbr>p=
sc=3D1&refRID=3D<wbr>JT51F1QH1ANE406VY6DQ</a></span></font><font color=3D=
"black"><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"#1f497d"=
face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family=
:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"> </span></f=
ont><font color=3D"black"><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span><=
/font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font=
color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,7=
3,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:12pt=
"> They have two sizes of heaters. I would try to pu=
t in the bigger one (25,000 BTU) if possible.</span></font><font color=3D"bl=
ack"><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"#1f497d" fa=
ce=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&q=
uot;Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"> &=
nbsp; Good luck!</span></font><font color=3D"black"><span style=3D"color:bla=
ck"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D=
"background:white"><font color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3"><span=
style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";font-size:12pt"> </span></font><font color=3D"black"><span st=
yle=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri=
" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri&q=
uot;,"sans-serif";font-size:12pt"> -Bill B=
rewer</span></font><font color=3D"black"><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u>=
<u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"backgrou=
nd:white"><font color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"=
;font-size:12pt"> </span></font><font color=3D"black"><span style=3D"co=
lor:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
style=3D"background:white"><b><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D=
"2"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-ser=
if";font-size:10pt;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font color=
=3D"black" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family=
:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"> David Friedlande=
r [<a href=3D"mailto:forzion7@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">mailto:forzion7@g=
mail.com</a>] <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Sunda=
y, September 25, 2016 6:36 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</sp=
an></b> Bill Brewer<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></=
b> Re: [TR] Smiths Heater Core Rebuilding</span></font><font color=3D"black"=
><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"=
Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:black;font-size:12pt"> =
;<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin-bottom=
:12pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"#000=
099" face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,153);fon=
t-family:"Comic Sans MS";font-size:10pt">Bill;</span></font><font c=
olor=3D"black"><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p><=
/div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"#000099" face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D=
"2"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,153);font-family:"Comic Sans MS";=
font-size:10pt">Don't know the answer to your question but where does one ge=
t a Maradyne heater for their TR3? Do you know a part number? I've had my ra=
diator cleaned and rebuilt but the heater core is in rough shape....</span><=
/font><font color=3D"black"><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span=
></font></p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><p class=3D"M=
soNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"#000099" face=3D"Comic S=
ans MS" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,153);font-family:"Comic=
Sans MS";font-size:10pt">Thanks!!</span></font><font color=3D"black"><=
span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div></div><div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"#00009=
9" face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,153);font-=
family:"Comic Sans MS";font-size:10pt">Dave Friedlander</span></fo=
nt><font color=3D"black"><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></=
font></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:wh=
ite"><font color=3D"#000099" face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D"2"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(0,0,153);font-family:"Comic Sans MS";font-size:10pt">'5=
9 TR3A</span></font><font color=3D"black"><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u=
><u></u></span></font></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Times New Roman" s=
ize=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:black;font-size:12pt"> <u></u><u></u></s=
pan></font></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:wh=
ite"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span style=3D=
"color:black;font-size:12pt">On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Bill Brewer &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:billbrewer59@yahoo.com"; target=3D"_blank">billbrewer59@y=
ahoo.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><font color=3D"black" face=
=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:"Calibri=
","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"> The h=
eater core in my Triumph Renown is leaking. Does anyone know of a rebuilder f=
or TR3-type Smiths heaters? I would go with a Maradyne heater like I have in=
my TR3, but it is very visible in the Renown and wouldn=E2=80=99t look righ=
t.</span></font><font color=3D"black"><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u>=
</u></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:=
white"><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"colo=
r:black;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:12p=
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