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Hi Bill,
Photo's always help a lot. We are all learning from your experience and tha=
t what you have done, is working well. So many times when we do work like t=
his we always wish we had made it bigger, smaller, smoother, welded in a sm=
all support or some other "improvement" that we think of after it's install=
ed. The first time is rarely the last time.
I am in the process of adding a 10 x 20 storeroom on the side of our 36 ft.=
deep garage, following the same roof line as the original garage so it can=
be brought forward if needed. Every time I walk out there I wish I had mad=
e it 12 ft.wide, and if I had I would probably wish I had made it 14 ft. wi=
de.
Do we ever get it just right and perfect?
Thanks for sharing and hope you might have time for a photo.
Randall S.
________________________________
From: Triumphs [triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] on behalf of Bill Brewer [=
billbrewer59@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:31 AM
To: 'David Friedlander'
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Was Smiths Heater Core Rebuilding/Now Maradyne Heaters
The Maradyne fit well between the two dash supports without problems.
I cut a notch with a hack saw about an inch long on both sides of the =
corner so the choke cable goes through the corner of the box. If you need, =
I can post a photo. I sort of don=92t want to do it because I wish that I h=
ad made the notch bigger but am too lazy to pull the heater back out and do=
it again and don=92t want to show everyone=85 The choke does work well eno=
ugh as it is.
-Bill
From: David Friedlander [mailto:forzion7@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 8:51 AM
To: Bill Brewer
Subject: Re: Was Smiths Heater Core Rebuilding/Now Maradyne Heaters
Bill;
"...I also cut out a notch to better clear the TR3 choke cable...."
Where is it you cut that notch? Did your battery box still have the
dash and cable support brackets on it or were those removed/not
present to allow for the new heater to sit flush against the heater
box?
Dave
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:09 AM, Bill Brewer <billbrewer59@yahoo.com<mailt=
o:billbrewer59@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Maradynes are aftermarket heaters designed for farm tractors or maybe=
a pickup truck. They almost slide straight in to where the original TR3 he=
ater was.
To make the Maradyne fit the TR3 better you need to disassemble it and=
reverse the heater core so the intake/exhaust is on the front of the heate=
r and not the back. This way you can mount it flush against the battery box=
. I also cut out a notch to better clear the TR3 choke cable. Make the notc=
h a lot bigger than you think it should be to avoid the choke cable having =
to bend. I used copper plumbing fittings from Lowes to reduce the fittings =
down to 3/8=94 rigid copper pipe which has a 0.5=94 OD to fit the TR3 heate=
r hoses.
I have seen Maradynes mounted to the trans tunnel, but I don=92t like =
the look.
I mounted my Maradyne to the back of the battery box using #10 SS shee=
t metal screws. I held it in place using double-sided tape while I was dril=
ling the holes. I lined the bottom of the Maradyne even with the bottom of =
the battery box. You can barely see it under the dash. You can paint or uph=
olster the heater to match your interior.
The Maradyne seems to put out about 2 or 3 times as much heat as the o=
riginal TR3 heater. Even with smooth defroster hoses I barely can get an an=
ts fart to come out the defroster vents.
https://www.amazon.com/Maradyne-H-803012-Phoenix-Floor-Heater/d=
p/B00DZEZ0KS/ref=3Dpd_lpo_263_tr_t_3?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1&refRID=3DJT51F1QH1AN=
E406VY6DQ
They have two sizes of heaters. I would try to put in the bigger one (=
25,000 BTU) if possible.
Good luck!
-Bill Brewer
m>]
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:36 PM
To: Bill Brewer
Subject: Re: [TR] Smiths Heater Core Rebuilding
Bill;
Don't know the answer to your question but where does one get a Maradyne he=
ater for their TR3? Do you know a part number? I've had my radiator cleaned=
and rebuilt but the heater core is in rough shape....
Thanks!!
Dave Friedlander
'59 TR3A
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Bill Brewer <billbrewer59@yahoo.com<mailto=
:billbrewer59@yahoo.com>> wrote:
The heater core in my Triumph Renown is leaking. Does anyone know of a=
rebuilder for TR3-type Smiths heaters? I would go with a Maradyne heater l=
ike I have in my TR3, but it is very visible in the Renown and wouldn=92t l=
ook right.
TIA,
Bill Brewer
Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
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10pt;">Hi Bill,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Photo's always help a lot. We are all learning from your experience an=
d that what you have done, is working well. So many times when we do work l=
ike this we always wish we had made it bigger, smaller, smoother, welded in=
a small support or some other "improvement"
that we think of after it's installed. The first time is rarely the last t=
ime. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am in the process of adding a 10 x 20 storeroom on the side of our 3=
6 ft. deep garage, following the same roof line as the original garage so i=
t can be brought forward if needed. Every time I walk out there I wish I ha=
d made it 12 ft.wide, and if I had
I would probably wish I had made it 14 ft. wide. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Do we ever get it just right and perfect? </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks for sharing and hope you might have time for a photo.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Randall S.<br>
<div style=3D"font-family: Times New Roman; color: #000000; font-size: 16px=
">
<hr tabindex=3D"-1">
<div id=3D"divRpF798063" style=3D"direction: ltr;"><font face=3D"Tahoma" si=
ze=3D"2" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Triumphs [triumphs-bounces@autox.te=
am.net] on behalf of Bill Brewer [billbrewer59@yahoo.com]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'David Friedlander'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Was Smiths Heater Core Rebuilding/Now Maradyne Hea=
ters<br>
</font><br>
</div>
<div></div>
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<div class=3D"WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans=
-serif"; color:#1F497D"> The Maradyne fit well=
between the two dash supports without problems.</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans=
-serif"; color:#1F497D"> I cut a notch with a =
hack saw about an inch long on both sides of the corner so the choke cable =
goes through
the corner of the box. If you need, I can post a photo. I sort of don=92t =
want to do it because I wish that I had made the notch bigger but am too la=
zy to pull the heater back out and do it again and don=92t want to show eve=
ryone=85 The choke does work well enough
as it is.</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans=
-serif"; color:#1F497D"> </span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans=
-serif"; color:#1F497D"> -Bill</span></font></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans=
-serif"; color:#1F497D"> </span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans=
-serif"; color:#1F497D"> </span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; fon=
t-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-seri=
f""> David
Friedlander [mailto:forzion7@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, September 26, =
2016 8:51 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Bill Brewer<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: Was Smiths Heat=
er Core Rebuilding/Now Maradyne Heaters</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size=3D"2" colo=
r=3D"#000099" face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-=
family:"Comic Sans MS"; color:#000099">Bill;<br>
<br>
"...</span></font><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497=
d" face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quo=
t;Comic Sans MS"; color:#1F497D">I also cut out a notch to better clea=
r the TR3 choke cable...."</span></font><font color=3D"#000099"><span =
style=3D"color:#000099"></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size=3D"2" colo=
r=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-=
family:"Comic Sans MS"; color:#1F497D">Where is it you cut that n=
otch? Did your battery box still have the
<br>
dash and cable support brackets on it or were those removed/not <br>
present to allow for the new heater to sit flush against the heater <br>
box?</span></font><font color=3D"#000099"><span style=3D"color:#000099"></s=
pan></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Comic San=
s MS"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Comic Sans MS"=
;; color:#1F497D">Dave</span></font><font color=3D"#000099" face=3D"Comic S=
ans MS"><span style=3D"font-family:"Comic Sans MS"; color:#000099=
"></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12.0pt">On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:09 AM, Bill Brewer <<a=
href=3D"mailto:billbrewer59@yahoo.com"; target=3D"_blank">billbrewer59@yaho=
o.com</a>> wrote:</span></font></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#1f497d" face=
=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri&quo=
t;,"sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> Ma=
radynes are aftermarket heaters designed for farm tractors or maybe a picku=
p truck. They almost
slide straight in to where the original TR3 heater was.</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#1f497d" face=
=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri&quo=
t;,"sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> To make =
the Maradyne fit the TR3 better you need to disassemble it and reverse the =
heater core
so the intake/exhaust is on the front of the heater and not the back. This=
way you can mount it flush against the battery box. I also cut out a notch=
to better clear the TR3 choke cable. Make the notch a lot bigger than you =
think it should be to avoid the
choke cable having to bend. I used copper plumbing fittings from Lowes to =
reduce the fittings down to 3/8=94 rigid copper pipe which has a 0.5=94 OD =
to fit the TR3 heater hoses.</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#1f497d" face=
=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri&quo=
t;,"sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> I have s=
een Maradynes mounted to the trans tunnel, but I don=92t like the look.</sp=
an></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#1f497d" face=
=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri&quo=
t;,"sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> I mounte=
d my Maradyne to the back of the battery box using #10 SS sheet metal screw=
s. I held it
in place using double-sided tape while I was drilling the holes. I lined t=
he bottom of the Maradyne even with the bottom of the battery box. You can =
barely see it under the dash. You can paint or upholster the heater to matc=
h your interior.</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#1f497d" face=
=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri&quo=
t;,"sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> The Mara=
dyne seems to put out about 2 or 3 times as much heat as the original TR3 h=
eater. Even
with smooth defroster hoses I barely can get an ants fart to come out the =
defroster vents.</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#1f497d" face=
=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri&quo=
t;,"sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> </span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#1f497d" face=
=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri&quo=
t;,"sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> &nb=
sp;
<a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Maradyne-H-803012-Phoenix-Floor-Heater/dp=
/B00DZEZ0KS/ref=3Dpd_lpo_263_tr_t_3?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1&refRID=3DJT51=
F1QH1ANE406VY6DQ" target=3D"_blank">
https://www.amazon.com/Maradyne-H-803012-Phoenix-Floor-Heater/dp/B00DZEZ0KS=
/ref=3Dpd_lpo_263_tr_t_3?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1&refRID=3DJT51F1QH1ANE406=
VY6DQ</a></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#1f497d" face=
=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri&quo=
t;,"sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> </span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#1f497d" face=
=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri&quo=
t;,"sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> They hav=
e two sizes of heaters. I would try to put in the bigger one (25,000 BTU) i=
f possible.</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#1f497d" face=
=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri&quo=
t;,"sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> Good luc=
k!</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#1f497d" face=
=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri&quo=
t;,"sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> </span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#1f497d" face=
=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri&quo=
t;,"sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> -Bill Br=
ewer</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#1f497d" face=
=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri&quo=
t;,"sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"> </span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span=
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif=
"; font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"T=
ahoma"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma",&quo=
t;sans-serif"">
David Friedlander [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:forzion7@gmail.com"; target=3D"=
_blank">forzion7@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, September 25, =
2016 6:36 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Bill Brewer<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [TR] Smiths Hea=
ter Core Rebuilding</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size=3D"2" colo=
r=3D"#000099" face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-=
family:"Comic Sans MS"; color:#000099">Bill;</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size=3D"2" colo=
r=3D"#000099" face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-=
family:"Comic Sans MS"; color:#000099">Don't know the answer to y=
our question but where does one get a Maradyne heater
for their TR3? Do you know a part number? I've had my radiator cleaned and=
rebuilt but the heater core is in rough shape....</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size=3D"2" colo=
r=3D"#000099" face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-=
family:"Comic Sans MS"; color:#000099">Thanks!!</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#000099" face=
=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Comic=
Sans MS"; color:#000099">Dave Friedlander</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#000099" face=
=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Comic=
Sans MS"; color:#000099">'59 TR3A</span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Bill Bre=
wer <<a href=3D"mailto:billbrewer59@yahoo.com"; target=3D"_blank">billbre=
wer59@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</span></font></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Calibri"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif&=
quot;"> The heater core in my Triumph Renown is lea=
king. Does anyone know of a rebuilder for TR3-type Smiths heaters? I would =
go with
a Maradyne heater like I have in my TR3, but it is very visible in the Ren=
own and wouldn=92t look right.</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Calibri"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif&=
quot;"> TIA,</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#888888" face=
=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Calibri&quo=
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