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mine came loose a couple years ago. It allowed the starter to move =
about. which caused the major power cable tab to move back and forth =
sufficiently that it snapped off due to metal fatigue and the car =
unceremoniously stopped dead. no power as the cable was floating in =
space. could have caused some interesting pyrotechnics had it hit a =
metal surface and grounded.
From: Dave=20
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2016 7:19 AM
To: ahwahneetr@gmail.com ; tr3a58@verizon.net=20
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [TR] High Torque Starters
What is the torque values for those bolts?=20
I'll bet no one knows. Too much and you'll strip the threads. Too =
loose and they will loosen up. Without proper torquing the only =
reliable way to keep them tight is with lock washers or Loctite(R). =
Pick your poison.
BTW, after four years the starter on the TR6 has had no such issues. =
Yet.
Dave Massey
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From: Geo Hahn <ahwahneetr@gmail.com>
To: Dean Tetterton <tr3a58@verizon.net>
Cc: TR3/6 List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Sep 4, 2016 2:37 am
Subject: Re: [TR] High Torque Starters
What sort of lock washers were used?
For connections with a reputation of coming loose I use Nord-Locks (or a =
generic knock-off of same). In one particularly difficult-to-hold =
location a combination of Nord-Locks and socket cap screws worked very =
well.
Geo
On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Dean Tetterton <tr3a58@verizon.net> =
wrote:
List
Over the past 6 month's I have had 3 different Triumph's to =
have the 2 allen head bolts that hold the Adapter block to the starter =
motor to come loose. The first was a friends TR3 starter and then the =
starter on my TR4 race car and yesterday the starter on my street TR4. =
These are Allen head metric bolts about 2 inches long. Is there an =
epidemic going around my area? Put these back in with red loctite. Hope =
that does it. Getting fast at taking starters out. Check and see if =
your's are loose before they fall out.
Dean T.
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<DIV>mine came loose a couple years ago. It allowed the starter to =
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about. which caused the major power cable tab to move back and =
forth=20
sufficiently that it snapped off due to metal fatigue and the car=20
unceremoniously stopped dead. no power as the cable was floating =
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space. could have caused some interesting pyrotechnics had it hit =
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 4, 2016 7:19 AM</DIV>
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size=3D4>What is the=20
torque values for those bolts? <BR><BR>I'll bet no one knows. Too =
much and=20
you'll strip the threads. Too loose and they will loosen up. =
Without=20
proper torquing the only reliable way to keep them tight is with lock =
washers or=20
Loctite(R). Pick your poison.<BR><BR>BTW, after four years the =
starter on=20
the TR6 has had no such issues. Yet.<BR></FONT>
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Message-----<BR>From: Geo Hahn <ahwahneetr@gmail.com><BR>To: Dean=20
Tetterton <tr3a58@verizon.net><BR>Cc: TR3/6 List=20
<triumphs@autox.team.net><BR>Sent: Sun, Sep 4, 2016 2:37 =
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Re: [TR] High Torque Starters<BR><BR>
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<DIV>What sort of lock washers were used?</DIV>
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(or a=20
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well.</DIV>
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Over the past 6 month's I have had 3 different Triumph's to have the 2 =
allen=20
head bolts that hold the Adapter block to the starter motor to come =
loose. The=20
first was a friends TR3 starter and then the starter on my TR4 race =
car and=20
yesterday the starter on my street TR4. These are Allen head metric =
bolts=20
about 2 inches long. Is there an epidemic going around my area? Put =
these back=20
in with red loctite. Hope that does it. Getting fast at taking =
starters out.=20
Check and see if your's are loose before they fall out.<BR><BR>Dean=20
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