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Re: [TR] Stag quit at speed

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Subject: Re: [TR] Stag quit at speed
From: Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com>
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This is a pretty=C2=A0cool battery tester. =C2=A0I use it on car batteries=
 and on deep cycle batteries on my boat and camper trailer. =C2=A0Conventi=
onal batteries and Optima batteries. =C2=A0I typically disconnect=C2=A0the=
 battery cables, but according to=C2=A0the instructions I don't have to.=0A=
=0Ahttps://www.amazon.com/BA5-100-1200-Cranking-Electronic-Battery/dp/B001=
7R5EQK/ref=3Dsr_1_1?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1471809677&sr=3D8-1&keywords=3Dsolar+B=
A5+digital+battery+tester=0A=0AThere is another model that cost a little m=
ore, and the only difference=C2=A0is it has a battery in the unit, while t=
his model=C2=A0runs off the power of the battery being=C2=A0testing.=0A=0A=
Rye=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Aug 21, 2016, at 07:00 AM, Dave <dave1massey@cs.com> wro=
te:=0A=0AIn their head long rush to maximize CCA (Cold Cranking Amps) they=
 have been making the the plate are larger and larger.=C2=A0 In order to k=
eep the batteries from becoming larger and heavier they have at the same t=
ime making the plates thinner and thinner to the point where it has become=
 a thin layer of lead supported by a fiberglass mat.=C2=A0 During the disc=
harge process lead is transferred from one plate to the electrolyte and to=
 the other plate.=C2=A0 If the battery is discharged sufficiently voids wi=
ll develop in the plate and once that happens the lead will never be repla=
ced in the void thus reducing the effective plate area and the current cap=
acity of the battery.=C2=A0 This is not a problem, normally, with modern c=
ars since they are fitted with alternators that can keep up with the elect=
rical requirements of the car and there is little or no demand on the batt=
ery once the car is started.=0A=0AThe alternator on my TR8 died one year w=
hen I was the the Summer Part at TRF.=C2=A0 Charles doesn't (or didn't) ca=
rry TR8 alternators so I bought a Walmart battery and a cheap set of jumpe=
r cables and drove 10 hours home on battery alone.=C2=A0 Plenty of charge =
left when I arrived.=0A=0AIf the car died while running then your alternat=
or is not working and the battery is discharged.=C2=A0 The the voltage dro=
pped to the point that the car died, the battery has been damaged and may =
no longer have adequate capacity.=0A=0ADave Massey=0A=0A=0A=0A-----Origina=
l Message-----=0AFrom: Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>=0ATo: 'Lee&John Howar=
d' <leejohn7@gmail.com>=0ACc: 'Triumphs' <triumphs@autox.team.net>=0ASent:=
 Sat, Aug 20, 2016 11:02 pm=0ASubject: Re: [TR] Stag quit at speed=0A=0A> =
But does a bad battery explain the car quitting going 65 after being on=0A=
> the road for 15 minutes? Not to mention that the battery is less than 6=0A=
> months old, and hardly driven at all.=0A=0ASorry, I missed that you were=
 actually doing 65 when it quit. In that case,=0AI'd say you also have a b=
um alternator (or wiring to it, etc.). But I still=0Athink you've got a ba=
ttery problem.=0A=0ABatteries can be ruined in a matter of days by running=
 them totally flat and=0Aleaving them that way. Had that happen just a cou=
ple of months ago in a=0Anon-LBC, to a battery that was only about 4 month=
s old. I was out of town,=0Aand the wife accidentally left the dome light =
on. When she went to start=0Athe car exactly a week later (it has to be mo=
ved every Thursday for street=0Asweeping), the battery wouldn't take a cha=
rge.=0A=0ARandall=0A=0A=0A=0A** triumphs@autox.team.net **=0A=0ADonate: ht=
tp://www.team.net/donate.html=0AArchive: http://www.team.net/archive=0AFor=
ums: http://www.team.net/forums=0AUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.ne=
t/mailman/options/triumphs/ryel@mac.com=0A=

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<html><body><div></div><div>This is a pretty&nbsp;cool battery tester. &nbsp;I 
use it =
on car batteries and on deep cycle batteries on my boat and camper trailer=
. &nbsp;Conventional batteries and Optima batteries. &nbsp;I typically dis=
connect&nbsp;the battery cables, but according to&nbsp;the instructions I =
don't have to.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><a href=3D"ht=
tps://www.amazon.com/BA5-100-1200-Cranking-Electronic-Battery/dp/B0017R5EQ=
K/ref=3Dsr_1_1?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1471809677&amp;sr=3D8-1&amp;keywords=3D=
solar+BA5+digital+battery+tester">https://www.amazon.com/BA5-100-1200-Cran=
king-Electronic-Battery/dp/B0017R5EQK/ref=3Dsr_1_1?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D147=
1809677&amp;sr=3D8-1&amp;keywords=3Dsolar+BA5+digital+battery+tester</a></=
div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>There is another model that c=
ost a little more, and the only difference&nbsp;is it has a battery in the=
 unit, while this model&nbsp;runs off the power of the battery being&nbsp;=
testing.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Rye</div><div><br d=
ata-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div class=3D=
"x-apple-signature"></div><div><br>On Aug 21, 2016, at 07:00 AM, Dave &lt;=
dave1massey@cs.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<div class=3D"msg-quote"><span color=3D"black" size=3D"4" face=3D"Arial, H=
elvetica, sans-serif" data-mce-style=3D"color: black; font-family: Arial, =
Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;" style=3D"color: black; font-fami=
ly: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span size=3D"4" data=
-mce-style=3D"font-size: large;" style=3D"font-size: large;">In their head=
 long rush to maximize CCA (Cold Cranking Amps) they have been making the =
the plate are larger and larger.&nbsp; In order to keep the batteries from=
 becoming larger and heavier they have at the same time making the plates =
thinner and thinner to the point where it has become a thin layer of lead =
supported by a fiberglass mat.&nbsp; During the discharge process lead is =
transferred from one plate to the electrolyte and to the other plate.&nbsp=
; If the battery is discharged sufficiently voids will develop in the plat=
e and once that happens the lead will never be replaced in the void thus r=
educing the effective plate area and the current capacity of the battery.&=
nbsp; This is not a problem, normally, with modern cars since they are fit=
ted with alternators that can keep up with the electrical requirements of =
the car and there is little or no demand on the battery </span><span size=3D=
"4" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: large;" style=3D"font-size: large;"><span=
 size=3D"4" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: large;" style=3D"font-size: large=
;">once the car is started.<br> <br> The alternator on my TR8 died one yea=
r when I was the the Summer Part at TRF.&nbsp; Charles doesn't (or didn't)=
 carry TR8 alternators so I bought a Walmart battery and a cheap set of ju=
mper cables and drove 10 hours home on battery alone.&nbsp; Plenty of char=
ge left when I arrived.<br> <br> If the car died while running then your a=
lternator is not working and the battery is discharged.&nbsp; The the volt=
age dropped to the point that the car died, the battery has been damaged a=
nd may no longer have adequate capacity.<br> <br> </span></span><div style=
=3D"clear: both;" data-mce-style=3D"clear: both;"><span size=3D"4" data-mc=
e-style=3D"font-size: large;" style=3D"font-size: large;">Dave Massey</spa=
n><br> <br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: =
arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-fa=
mily: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">-----Original Messa=
ge-----<br> From: Randall &lt;tr3driver@ca.rr.com&gt;<br> To: 'Lee&amp;Joh=
n Howard' &lt;leejohn7@gmail.com&gt;<br> Cc: 'Triumphs' &lt;triumphs@autox=
.team.net&gt;<br> Sent: Sat, Aug 20, 2016 11:02 pm<br> Subject: Re: [TR] S=
tag quit at speed<br> <br> &gt; But does a bad battery explain the car qui=
tting going 65 after being on<br> &gt; the road for 15 minutes? Not to men=
tion that the battery is less than 6<br> &gt; months old, and hardly drive=
n at all.<br> <br> Sorry, I missed that you were actually doing 65 when it=
 quit. In that case,<br> I'd say you also have a bum alternator (or wiring=
 to it, etc.). But I still<br> think you've got a battery problem.<br> <br=
> Batteries can be ruined in a matter of days by running them totally flat=
 and<br> leaving them that way. Had that happen just a couple of months ag=
o in a<br> non-LBC, to a battery that was only about 4 months old. I was o=
ut of town,<br> and the wife accidentally left the dome light on. When she=
 went to start<br> the car exactly a week later (it has to be moved every =
Thursday for street<br> sweeping), the battery wouldn't take a charge.<br>=
 <br> Randall<br> <br> <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tr=
iumphs/dave1massey@cs.com" data-mce-href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/=
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