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I changed to silicone brake fluid 19 years ago and have had no problems =
whatsoever. =20
And based on recommendations from the list I didn=92t flush anything. I =
pull the silicone fluid in and bled the brakes until it showed up (NAPA =
brand is purple) at the bleed screws. No muss no fuss, no problems, and =
I get to keep the paint in the engine bay.
Bud Rolofson
Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)
71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle=20
77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)
On Mar 27, 2016, at 6:27 PM, dave n <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
> I actually spoke to a moss employee about that a few years ago. he =
said the reason that moss discourages the use of silicone fluid is =
liability. if you just start adding silicone fluid to your dot 3/4 =
brake system, bad things will happen. they don't want that. if you =
switch, you need to fully drain and flush the system.
>=20
> I, too, have been using silicone (dot 5) in my cars for over a decade. =
never a problem due to the silicone.
>=20
> the arguments, at least for me, are pretty simple.
>=20
> dot 4/5 eats paint, absorbs water (that's hygroscopic, NOT =
hydroscopic), and must be bled annually. and when you bleed it, you =
better be careful about the paint in the wheel wells!
>=20
> dot 5 doesn't. it is slippery and messy, so yes, you should catch it =
with a tube as well.
>=20
> if you are painting a car, or some part, be very very careful about =
silicone, even being in the air. it will cause orange peel.
>=20
> the pedal feel with dot 4/5 is a little firmer.
>=20
> want better stopping - get better brake pads. I got really aggressive =
pads on my TR6 and noticed a huge difference. still silicone.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> ** triumphs@autox.team.net **
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changed to silicone brake fluid 19 years ago and have had no problems =
whatsoever. <div><br></div><div>And based on recommendations from =
the list I didn=92t flush anything. I pull the silicone fluid in and =
bled the brakes until it showed up (NAPA brand is purple) at the bleed =
screws. No muss no fuss, no problems, and I get to keep the paint in the =
engine bay.<br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Mar 27, 2016, at 6:27 PM, dave n <<a =
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wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">I actually spoke to a moss employee about that a few years =
ago. he said the reason that moss discourages the use of silicone =
fluid is liability. if you just start adding silicone fluid to =
your dot 3/4 brake system, bad things will happen. they don't want =
that. if you switch, you need to fully drain and flush the =
system.<br><br>I, too, have been using silicone (dot 5) in my cars for =
over a decade. never a problem due to the silicone.<br><br>the =
arguments, at least for me, are pretty simple.<br><br>dot 4/5 eats =
paint, absorbs water (that's hygroscopic, NOT hydroscopic), and must be =
bled annually. and when you bleed it, you better be careful about =
the paint in the wheel wells!<br><br>dot 5 doesn't. it is =
slippery and messy, so yes, you should catch it with a tube as =
well.<br><br>if you are painting a car, or some part, be very very =
careful about silicone, even being in the air. it will cause =
orange peel.<br><br>the pedal feel with dot 4/5 is a little =
firmer.<br><br>want better stopping - get better brake pads. I got =
really aggressive pads on my TR6 and noticed a huge difference. =
still silicone.<br><br><br><br>** <a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a> =
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