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Re: [TR] Wire wheel maintenance

Subject: Re: [TR] Wire wheel maintenance
From: Robert Rochlin <rrochlin@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 21:43:32 -0500
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Fred Belanger was the guy who did my wheels.  He=92s a very personable =
interesting guy.  While I at the shop he showed me some wheels we was =
rebuilding for a museum, although I don=92t recall which one.  Most of =
the equipment you see in the photo is  50+ years old.   if a wheel is =
out of true he takes it apart and re-spokes it from scratch.  Fred is =
about 78 with a bit of arthritis so can=92t work for long periods of =
time on re-spoaking wheels.  He just plugs away at them for about an =
hour at a time and has help come in once a week.  He did a very precise =
evaluation of my wheels.  And as David said, it would probably  be =
cheaper to replace the wheel than incur the expense of having Fred, or =
another rebuilder disassemble it and build it back form scratch. =20
>> http://www.hemmings.com/hcc/stories/2013/10/01/hmn_feature10.html =
<http://www.hemmings.com/hcc/stories/2013/10/01/hmn_feature10.html>     =
I went out today and tried again to figure out where the vibration is =
coming from.   I may take Randall=92s advice and try to get the wheels =
balanced on the car.  At least then I=92ll know which axel  the =
vibration is coming from and then maybe I can drill down as to the =
cause.
        Take care.
        Bob
> On Nov 4, 2015, at 8:35 PM, David Porter <frogeye@porterscustom.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> here's how they are made.. Thanks to Michael Salter on the Healey =
list:=20
> http://cara.co.id/2015/06/how-to-make-wire-wheels/ =
<http://cara.co.id/2015/06/how-to-make-wire-wheels/>
> DaveP
>=20
> On 11/4/2015 4:24 PM, Alex&Janet Thomson wrote:
>> There was an interesting article just a week or so ago in the =
Hemmings blog about a small shop that works on wire wheels. See the =
link.
>> http://www.hemmings.com/hcc/stories/2013/10/01/hmn_feature10.html =
<http://www.hemmings.com/hcc/stories/2013/10/01/hmn_feature10.html>
>> =20
>> Alex Thomson
>> =20
>> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net =
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 6:01 PM
>> Cc: Triumph Mail List
>> Subject: Re: [TR] Wire wheel maintenance
>> =20
>> Call Alan at Hendrix Wire Wheel, he'll probably tell you it's cheaper =
to buy new. =20
>> Bill B
>>=20
>> Sent from my VIC-64
>>=20
>> On Nov 4, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Doug Mathews < =
>>=20
>> Just a question, but the crowd that does a lot of work on wire wheels =
are bike shops. Granted there is a HUGE difference in them, there are =
many similarities thought. Anyone ever approached your bicycle shop =
about this?  The next time I am by my bike shop I will ask them the =
question, but I probably will get the easy answer.
>>=20
>> Here is a link to Hagerty (insurance)   that list some places around =
the country that do the work. Not sure how current the info is.
>>=20
>> =
https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2007/03/01/Wire-Wheels =
<https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2007/03/01/Wire-Wheels>
>>=20
>> Doug
>>=20
>>=20
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> --=20
> Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM =
87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ =
<http://www.porterbikes.com/>
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class=3D"">Fred Belanger was the guy who did my wheels. &nbsp;He=92s a =
very personable interesting guy. &nbsp;While I at the shop he showed me =
some wheels we was rebuilding for a museum, although I don=92t recall =
which one. &nbsp;Most of the equipment you see in the photo is &nbsp;50+ =
years old. &nbsp; if a wheel is out of true he takes it apart and =
re-spokes it from scratch. &nbsp;Fred is about 78 with a bit of =
arthritis so can=92t work for long periods of time on re-spoaking =
wheels. &nbsp;He just plugs away at them for about an hour at a time and =
has help come in once a week. &nbsp;He did a very precise evaluation of =
my wheels. &nbsp;And as David said, it would probably &nbsp;be cheaper =
to replace the wheel than incur the expense of having Fred, or another =
rebuilder disassemble it and build it back form scratch. &nbsp;<div =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><blockquote =
cite=3D"mid:002b01d11757$ef03c3d0$cd0b4b70$@charter.net" type=3D"cite" =
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ml</a></font></span></div></div></blockquote></blockquote><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">     </span>I went =
out today and tried again to figure out where the vibration is coming =
from. &nbsp; I may take Randall=92s advice and try to get the wheels =
balanced on the car. &nbsp;At least then I=92ll know which axel =
&nbsp;the vibration is coming from and then maybe I can drill down as to =
the cause.</div><div class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">      </span>Take care.</div><div =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">    =
</span>Bob<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Nov 4, 2015, at 8:35 PM, David Porter =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:frogeye@porterscustom.com"; =
class=3D"">frogeye@porterscustom.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, =
255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">here's how =
they are made.. Thanks to Michael Salter on the Healey list:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
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text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, =
255);" class=3D""><a =
href=3D"http://cara.co.id/2015/06/how-to-make-wire-wheels/"; =
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class=3D"">http://cara.co.id/2015/06/how-to-make-wire-wheels/</a><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
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none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, =
255);">On 11/4/2015 4:24 PM, Alex&amp;Janet Thomson wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote =
cite=3D"mid:002b01d11757$ef03c3d0$cd0b4b70$@charter.net" type=3D"cite" =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">There was an interesting article just a =
week or so ago in the Hemmings blog about a small shop that works on =
wire wheels. See the link.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><a =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"http://www.hemmings.com/hcc/stories/2013/10/01/hmn_feature10.html"=
 style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">http://www.hemmings.com/hcc/stories/2013/10/01/hmn_feature10.ht=
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class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
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New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">Alex Thomson<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
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New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
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1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
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class=3D""><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Triumphs [<a =
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Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b><a =
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class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Wednesday, November 04, =
2015 6:01 PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:mathews@uga.edu"; =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: =
underline;">mathews@uga.edu</a><br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Triumph Mail List<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [TR] Wire wheel =
maintenance<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">Call Alan at Hendrix =
Wire Wheel, he'll probably tell you it's cheaper to buy new. &nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D"">Bill B<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Sent from my VIC-64<o:p =
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style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif;"><br class=3D"">On Nov 4, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Doug Mathews =
&lt;<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:mathews@uga.edu"; =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D""></a><a =
class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:mathews@uga.edu"; =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: =
underline;">mathews@uga.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Cambria, serif;" class=3D"">Just =
a question, but the crowd that does a lot of work on wire wheels are =
bike shops. Granted there is a HUGE difference in them, there are many =
similarities thought. Anyone ever approached your bicycle shop about =
this?&nbsp; The next time I am by my bike shop I will ask them the =
question, but I probably will get the easy answer.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Here is a link to Hagerty (insurance) &nbsp; that list some =
places around the country that do the work. Not sure how current the =
info is.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2007/03/01/Wire-W=
heels" style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/Articles/2007/03/01/Wir=
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